Bro Fiqi,
Which other user id? In here, folks guess user ids a lot and that prof4nity-filled, Islam h4ter Gacaliye and that useless, Ethios-ever-appeaser Simber do resemble.
BTW, I though you were gonna stay out of the fray but suprised when I saw you in the middle.
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Hymohamed
Here we should debate an opinion; it seems you are trying to grab me with in your Dark Age mentality.
I don’t believe a bearded Jahil who has any knowledge about modern science I don’t think people can bring any hope to hard proven population of Somalia. That’s why I have deferent opinion than yours. That shouldn’t make me a Dabadhifs what ever it means.
It takes much more efforts to develop a country than a teaching how to wear Tora Bora Candho Celis and destroy a graveyard of dead people and harass people every where because they shave their beard.
Say something tangible or shut up.
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Hymohamed2004
Indeed we were in the same boat when the adjective rahan rahan was applied to us.
Of course we all misspeak from time to time. Perhaps this time you have unknowingly exposed your true self(other Cyber user-name) to the rest of the gang.
Mind how you go next time or you will be caught red handed.kkkkk
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Hymohamed2004,
huuno go back and read some more postings before opening your filthy mouth, making non-existent comparisions with your st**id raxan-raxan behaviours.
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Woow something happened here today. All of the Dabodhilifs are ganging up on one lady!!!! It is like the Raxan Raxan they used to accuse me and others during the struggle against Ethios. I see some of them even getting that lady's private life like the useless and ever Ethios appeaser Simbe.
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Kkk Fiqi,
I take it as DIB U GURASHO .
No where to hide huh.
Good you withdraw your troops.
Cheers dear .
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Saba
There you go. It is only you that posts meaningful comments. Hahaha! what a madness.
Stay in your little world, that is where you belong to.
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Saba
" About Fiqi, he just doesn't like the tough political debate i raised on the other thread." you wrote
It wasn't any where near a political debate from your side, it was sheer stubborness without evidence or facts to support your comment.
Read it again , you were talking about other people out side the topic which is typical of you.
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Meaninful discusion m not the useless type that you post.
Tell me Fiqi, what was the urge you had to participate
my teasing with Gacaliye?!
What was the urge couple of others had last night to do the same.
Ganging up, is it?! Love of Violence,perhaps.
Discuss it but do it as a social study in Somali behaviour.
That is educational.
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Nom fiqi,
there is no one that i lashed.
There so many who did and you were a champion.
You can find one today towards me AND I DID NOT
RECIPROCATE. tell me i am lying. Check the other thread NOW.
Yes, you all are agressive, very Somali indeed, even women are
like that. i saw once women in a class room who had a disagreement,
i was delivering a child to language student who was in a class.
Guess what, they had clan discussion. Dispute arised,verbally,
they att'acked each other with Kursi and MIIS with scandinavian teacher
running around trying to call police on them.
Seem two women had a verbal disagreement, ALL PARTICIPATED.
Read comments down, tell me specifically where i bad mouthed INTIATED A BAD MOUTH,
never, I RESPOND WITH RESTRAINT.
I tell you dear why most don't like me, BECAUSE I AM NOT LIKE THEM.
You yourself admited you can not finnish argument with me.
Is that what is frustrating you Fiqi?!. Well dear that is loosing an
argument, it is not abuse. Sorry.
Yes, i change the useless argument into Meaningfull one.
Now, i chnage this into CASE STUDY.
Why are you guys so loose with agression.
Can't you separate skirmish from a fight.
Can't you differentiate tough talk from Ins'ult.
You see i am educating you, now, make this nonsense talk
a useful one. Go and discuss why Somalis are loose with violence.
Why do you gang up on people as Richard Burton noticed.
Yes dear, meaningful discusion and this type that you post.
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correction: I mean't to write, don't tell me that you speak of your mind which you don't.
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Saba
Strange. Isn't it? you always change the topic to suit your endless argument without any meaningful points that can draw ones attention to respond to your comment.
Indeed i do debate and enjoy to exchange valuable and constructive words with those with self confidence.
Tell me, is there any one on the forum that you haven't lashed at since you joined this forum?
I am afraid there may come a time when none of us will want to respond to you in case you loose it as usaul.
The problem with you is unfortunately you think you know it all but your comments are there to be read and judged by others.
Saba , don't tell me you that speakk of your mind which you don't. If you post a comment of five paragraphs, iam sure three of them are there to critisize others which will make one ask why try to have a decent debate with one who is full of herself but knows little.
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Gacalka lol,
Are you still at it?!
Yaa cabaadaaya?! Me.
Read what i wrote everybody.
I was very mannared with you all the way.
Very pleasent indeed, even when you in the
other thread said the unsayable.
Had i not?!
You know a Somali doesn't know how to fight
his fights.
Not every skirmish is an ALL OUT WAR.
This was hardly a skirmish,i don't know why
you Gacaliye are trying to make it a fuss.
About Fiqi, he just doesn't like the tough political
debate i raised on other threads.
You know that, don't you Fiqicigal?!!
BTW, most of Muslims in disapora are said to be the most
peacefull in ending to their disputes except Somalis who
Knife each other.
Look at you now, what is your complaint Gacalka,
is what you said in the other thread equivelant to
how i engaged with you?!!
I raised an issue now, make USE OF IT, as i always
try to find meaning in everything and not like your
usual Waryaa thing.
Debate why are the Somalis the only Muslims in diaspora
who knife each other for NOTHING?!
May be your postings to this non issue can help as reference.
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Gacaliye
Abtigiis, you might be right but iam not not saying anything in case i land myself into the frying pan. kkkkkkkkkkkkk
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Fiqi lol,
in original Somali, we say "hashu iyadaa geela cuneysa caba'daysana" wa yaab.
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Guys
Iam laughing after i read how the debate turned into Cantrabaqash. I know who is the guilty party but my lips are sealed.
But just for the sake argument, does any one of you know the person who has tendency to spoil the talk but also cries wolf before the real victim complains?
Yes you are right, but keep it to yourselves until the storm settles or it will be a long day/night.
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Gacaliye
I wonder if Saba reads my comments but jump a conclusion as usual.
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Saba,
you are still driving on rough and wrong road, to h**l with Yusuf, Garcase and other old soldiers trying short cuts to power. I was talking about usernames, NOT ina-YEEY.
You are still calling me Simbe. I know Simbe, an honourable gentleman, we live in the same city, about 50km apart, BUT I AM NOT S-I-M-B-E!
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Gacalka simbe,
Do not worry dear, i supported Yusuf in the other article
where they want him in court.
Reason i did, you will never know, lool!!.
Enjoy that .
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Gacalka,
But we agreed telepathicly that we have to be fair to
our opponents.
ANTIDABADHILIF and IBNSOMAL are such gentelmen.
They do not in'sult people.
Cheers dear, enjoy the WE, i wish i was partying the
last 24 hours, i wasn't, sadly.
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Saba,
honestly, I could expect certain cheap shots only from low level people like Gaaldoon, Dabadhilif, Anti-Yeey, Yeey-Dile, Yeey-Siib, Yeey-jiide, Yeey-something, Al-Qashin and others in sheydan's Advocacy Group, but not from this present direction.
Concerning sobriety or otherwise, I guess we are both adults and know what we have been doing the last 24 hours and we better let it stay there, it belongs to just there nowhere else.
Saba lol,
ma magacii baad iga bedashay??? From Gacaliye to Gacaliye-Simbe, kkkk??? Waa yaab!!!!
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Gacaliye welcome back bro.
You se what our friend Saba is up to. I think she don’t like that we have often same opinion about certain things or we meet face to face sometimes.
Saba accused me that I am angry about that she has her own opinion, when in reality anyone who disagree her will be call a nice names and if you protests she become so upset and will give hard punch in air or kicking around.
What I dislike most is when she accuses me that I h*te some Somali clan. I supported Cali Mahi, Cabdulqasim, Cabduhi Yusuf, and now Shaifs government with the hope of; we Somalis one day we can get back our country and stop the carnage I simply thought with strong central government job will done.
To disagree Alshabaab and Xasan Dahir will not make me qabiliste.
Saba you should know this it may reduce you prejudice about me. There many other clans who live in Puntland then Cabdulahi Yusufs clan and they live even in Ogaden. Ex. Leelkase, Awrtable etc.
Saba may be some of your Alshabaab friends from ONLF here are more closer than in Qabiil wise with Cabdulahi Yusuf you always claim I supported more than other presidents during the civil war. I think this can be some cure to your chronic projuidice and bias.
Gacaliye
My self I have no problem with that, if she believes we are the same person. I am proud what you use write here if some believe its mine its ok! With me.
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And Gacalka, if you remember i got the same treatment
from the other side in raising my voice for Aisha.
My concern at the time was not politically driven.
All of those who in'sulted me at the time were politically
motivated, all those who supported my stance at the time
were politically and clannishly motivated.
I was not motivated by either.
Hope you know little about me by now.
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Gacalka simbe,
I say you could have waited till sobber because you
are still double posting.
So Cute, lol.
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Gacaliye Simbe loool,
You could have waited untill you were sober dear.
Yes i admit you you are one of 4 commentators who
are decent and gentelmen with ladies.
You see i admit goodness in freinds and foes equally,
it is in my nature.
Galaka,
You mis the point. i am not for Aways per se.
I am against balkanization of Somalia by UN.
I told you long agao many of you can not think in complexity.
On the other article where they want guys like Yusuf in court,i
defended Yusuf for reasons that are completely different than those
who were happy to ride on my comment.
You see Gacaliye, in my school of thought, you will learn that
personalities don't matter that much to me.
The ideals behind each case and circumstamces of the times is what
drives my thoughts.
Aisha you mentioned!! I said enough of that.
Actually i was the only one who was so furious about it in earnest.
I am not still sure if the incident happened for real.
In conclusion, i am not driven by the same motives of most of you.
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she was cheering for the ethios I meant so passionately!!!!!!!!!1
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waxbaa si idinka ah haddaad wali la sii murmeysiin inantan saba
markey xabashidu joogeen she was pro xabashi and yussuf,and she used to call mogadisho people mooryaan and uncivilised nomads, she was cheering for them passionately now that she was busted she turned against them, but of course as she is not for order she is against sharif and pro aweys!! she claims to be banadiri yet a firm supporter of aweys, have you ever come across a banadiri supporting aweys!!! she is definitely 100% not here for the interest of the Somalis, she is here for a purpose. if it smells like a rat and looks like a rat then it is a rat, and the rat in this occasion is Ethiopian!!!
always remember that NOT everyone who speaks or writes SOMALI is a SOMALI!!!!!!
as for sheikh aweys
he needs to be condemned, sharif needs to be condemned, shabaab needs to be condemned everyone in that cursed city mog needs to be condemned!!! simple because they wear cimaamad cas which stands for saudi arabia doesn't make them sheikhs. If they wore the black and white one which represents Palestine I would have sympathised with them, but the red is very much wahabi and represents Saudis, I bet they don't even know the difference!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!but took it on as their masters asked them to wear them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
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waxbaa si idnka ah hadaad wali la sii murmeysiin inantan saba
markey xabashidu joogeen she was pro xabashi and yussuf,an she used to call mogadisho people mooryaan and uncivilised nomads, now that she was busted she turned against them, but of course as she is not for order she is against sharif and pro aweys!! she claims to be banadiri yet a firm supporter of aweys, have you ever come across a banadiri supporting aweys!!! she is definitely 100% not here for the interest of the Somalis, she is here for a purpose.
as for sheikh aweys
he needs to be condemned, sharif needs to be condemned, shabaab needs to be condemned everyone in that cursed city mog needs to be condemned!!! simple because they were cimaamad cas which stands for saudi arabia doesn't make them sheikhs. If they wore the black and white one which represents Palestine I would have sypathised with them, but the red is very much wahabi and represents Saudis, I bet they don't even know the difference!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!but took it on as their masters asked them to wear them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
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Gacaliye,
Accept no bullying from Sheitan Advocacy Group!
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Shanta,
thanks brother for saying as it is, as usual. I am on my way to give up, unless I get an official apology!
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Shanta,
thanks brother for saying as it is, as usual. I am on my way to give up, unless I get an official apology!
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Gacaliye
You know Saba's father was born in Wardheer, ethiopia too but fled there in 1977. So you must respect her as much as you do your sister.
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Saba (contd.),
burned schools, more r*p*d and st*ned Asha Luul Dhuxulows, etc is that we want to in Somalia, Saba? And if so, why did your dear parents once sent you trying to make you an educated, independently thinking, selfsufficient and valuable citizen of our society???
A couple of weeks ago, poor citizen was gu**ed down on broad daylight by an Al-Hababist in Baidhabo for not praying AS ORDERED. According to what religion was that carried out??? Common sense says, it wasn't done in accordance with our Islamic religion, but with strange and not welcome in Somalia.
Finally, my message to you is:
cheers Saba instead of returning ins**ts,
Gacaliye NOT AKA SIMBE.
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Saba (contd.),
burned schools, more r*p*d and st*ned Asha Luul Dhuxulows, etc is that we want to in Somalia, Saba? And if so, why did your dear parents once sent you trying to make you an educated, independently thinking, selfsufficient and valuable citizen of our society???
A couple of weeks ago, poor citizen was gu**ed down on broad daylight by an Al-Hababist in Baidhabo for not praying AS ORDERED. According to what religion was that carried out??? Common sense says, it wasn't done in accordance with our Islamic religion, but with strange and not welcome in Somalia.
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Gacaliye,
Multiple user names are utilized by some, in order to soup up their arguments. In your case, everyone knows where you stand on any given subject.
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Saba (contd.),
a good example about gardheres, including adeer garcase is, during the past 6 months 221 girl's schools have been bu*ned down with many females d**ths at the Afghani and Pakistani tribal areas, so my question to Hassan garcase & co. or you for that matter, is according to what religion was that done???
Islamic studies are not among my specialities, so was it done according to our meriful faith or simply according to the twisted s*ck minds of the spoiled s*t*nic Saudi fug*t*ve in those and his conf*sed followers in Somalia or elsewhere?
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Saba (contd.),
Secondly, you have my permission to ins**t me as much as you please if that makes you or anyone else to feel better.
Thirdly, I am (username) Gacaliye born in Wardheer, NOT SIMBE AND YOU KNOW IT, DON'T YOU?! Fourthly, you said repeatedly that people can have different points of views about different subjects. In opinion, it's natural. But Saba, you are NOT following that simple rule, are you?!
What I said earlier and still maintain is that Somalia under gardhereyaal rule, god for it, women would be the first v*ct*ms/l*sers and our nation can't afford that, can it?
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Saba,
you couldn't be more wrong than you have been about me last night, could you?! Firstly, sorry I don't ins**t women of any nationality, they are like my mother, sister, daughter and wife. Normally, women are the good unself*sh and lifeline half of our society, so I know a better way of handling a woman than just ins**ting her.
continuation follows.....
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HOL, why this unnecessary censor?????
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Nuun,
There is one major factor that sunk Somalia that you
admit he is not. He is not Qabiiliste. That is good quality
which many of us lack.
I hope those who accuse him of being one can retract their false
claims now that many testify he is not.
Dear Nun, rest can be discussed if we all want ONE SOMALIA back.
If he is not qualified to deliver then it is paramount that we find
people who can.
Mind you now, communist UN will not deliver it for you.
So, time is ticking.
This discussion can continue in the days to come.
Each can tell us not only WHO can but HOW can they?!!
I am signing off ,so g'nite NUN.
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Good night Saba
No bad feelings towards you either. I am not high I am working a night shift and I need some entertainment like your silly comments………………….kkk
Simbe aka gacaliye kkkkkkkk
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Saba,
Abaayo, Odaga aweys waxba ha difaacin. Aniga waa kaa aqoo ogahay.
Aniga mid waa kugu raacsanahay oo Qabilist maahan. Laakiin wax kale oo ku fiicanyahay maleh.
Waa yihii danbe wuxuu kusoo baxay nin self1sh ah oo tiisa kaliya u muuqato. Waxaa tiri One Somalia ayuu ka shaqeynayaa. RUnta haddii aad rabtid shan iska dhaafe haddii Dariiqa uweys la raaco Somali Proper aay dariishadda ka baxaysa.
Hadda mar ayaan sigannahay oo somalia oo dhan la waayey, arrintaasna waxaa hormuud ka ahaa asaga siyaasad xumadiisa. Nin siyaasi ah maahan, nin indheer garad ah maahan, nin taagtaada tillaabso yaqaan maahan. Nin xikmad kusocda maahan. Siyaasi maahan, caalim maahan. Nin waxbartay maahan.
Aniga waa kaa ogahay odeyga. Maanta wax faido ah uma hayo somalia. Sida kaliya oo somalia wax ugu qabo karo waa asagoo dhibka ka daaya oo wanaaga ka shaqeeya, oo dagaalka joojiyo.
w/a
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Simbe gacaliye,
I know you are high when you triple post.
It happened many times before.
So let us say G'nite.
I don't even know how you came to converse with me
tonight. Are you h'ating me for my political point of view?!
Weird isn't it?! particularly from a guy who can forgive an Occupation.
No hard feelings from my part and g'nite.
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That does mean that Eedo? ask you Japanese if what you wrote is comprehensive and logic.
What mentality are you talking about??
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Oh Nomy,
That is very endearing.
G'nite dearest.
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Simbe,
Do not wish your mentality on others that you care for.
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Saba
I was looking with you a touch in the jungle, you left behind a small matrix bombs.
Personal attacks are not in paper but for you it’s the agenda, so peace for now until we regroup and reload our weapons.
I carefully read my comments and I am sure it was a suitable responses with your behaviour here not only tonight but before too. Shanta is my Marqaati
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Saba
I was in Addis Ababa in 5 weeks from the end of mars, with my mother and sister they are only remaining member of my close family in Africa.
Believe Saba she has better life than me as a doctor in Sweden. She was happy, health and she even don’t remember that history when I asked.
What she told me was this: If Meles Senawi and his Tigrey regime lose the power we Somalis will be in deep trouble. We Somalis has full right like everybody else in Ethiopia even those who come from Somalia today can get your papers direct including the national passport of Ethiopia…………… check this fact your self.
My mother seems forgive Amharas and I should do the same. The future of Ogaden is another history.
By the way I feel home in Addis, peaceful with nice girls and I am planning nest journey already
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Simbe Gacaliye,
Dear, you are a confused fella, perhaps time to quit this
Gin and Juice you so much talk about.
You see , your feeble mind is trying to persuade me that
you forgave Amhara. As if it was a personal thing.
It is never pride of people for you ,is it dear?!
Not freedom and self determination!!
That humiliation was personal in conduct but national in nature
for me. I was offended with you, but you are talking about "forgiving now"!!.
Forgive who?! A person or an occupation?!
Why can't you forgive other Somalis that because of them you ha'te me now?!!
Did i not tell you Simbe ....Don't with your mentality on others.
You really shame all things Somali. Sorry dear.
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Saba
I was in Addis Ababa in 5 weeks from the end of mars, with my mother and sister they are only remaining member of my close family in Africa.
Believe Saba she has better life than me as a doctor in Sweden. She was happy, health and she even don’t remember that history when I asked.
What she told me was this: If Meles Senawi and his Tigrey regime lose the power we Somalis will be in deep trouble. We Somalis has full right like everybody else in Ethiopia even those who come from Somalia today can get your papers direct including the national passport of Ethiopia…………… check this fact your self.
My mother seems forgive Amharas and I should do the same. The future of Ogaden is another history.
By the way I feel home in Addis, peaceful with nice girls and I am planning nest journey already
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Good night Shanta and the others.
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Saba
I know many that are the same.
If we sample them, it will be something like 65% anti which is unreal in real life situation.
I hope Aweys comes back to earth and does something positive with the others not just him and him. Let’s also hope he learns how to talk in public.
Good night Saba.
Nice to have u back.
Nomy springs to life when he sees you.Only if on perminent basis....lol
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Simbe gacalka,
Waxaan ku waydiiyay, maxaa saas kaaga xanaajiyay?!
Yacni qof kaa ra'yi duwan!!
Bal aqri waxaad qorto and see if you wish such
mentality for another person.
G'nite anyway .
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He is Nomy.
He is one big fool.
I told you before, many here are not different people.
Same people keep coming back with same behaviour.
Do you know 5 other usernames that belong to tfreesomalia website?!
Sample HOl islam h'ters and compare it to somali population,
see the ratio nomy.
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Simbe.
Let it go, it ain't worth it.
Gacaliye,
Sorry in advance my brother.
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Eeedo Saba.......KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
Gacaliye aka Simbe KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
Engineer Gacaliye and his Swedish wife S. will kill me tomorrow when he reads this, he will blame me that I make my self sound like him……………..kkkk
Did I sound like him eller är du ute och reste.
Saba dear I really Lough a lot and I promise I will remind him what you wrote. He is Finland today, it will fund kkk Gacaliye aka Simbe I will se this as a complement because I adore the man…………..
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Saba
What do you say? Gacalka is also Simbe?
That Tonic, Gin and Tora bora has Gacalka written all over it.
May be Simbe stole that statement? loooooooool
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Nomy,
It is never a good fortune is it.
Man who is looking for One nation the likes of Simbe gacaliye.
Why blame Aways dear.
They do not deserve it.
They deserve Habashi whipping their behind and their mother's.
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Good nite-
profanity was MIA for couple of days-
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Shanta and Fiqi
Ideally, it would been better if we could cull the likes of Morgan, Hiiraale, Qanyare and Shati guduud, but since we cant, we should get rid of them one by one in a peaceful way.
Two to three years of stability and normalcy will afford us an opportunity to eliminate these guys.
Two to three years of insecurity and turmoil will spring more of these guys into prominent positions.
That is why we need sustained peace.
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Nomad,
Men of God don't keep family members as body guards- the whole public will serve them. The next diagnosis on identifying of who is qabiliste would be " who are his advisers?"
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Don't feel sympathy for me Simbe gacaliye.
Feel Sympathy for your OWN MOTHER who was beaten by
an Habashi together with you. Seek a rev'venage there,
there you would seem like a man, now you are a half man from
wardheer ,campaigning for puntland ha'ting Aways instead of his
mother's beater.
Do not feel sorry for me when Aways stones me, you must have
your hands full of other guys to take care of.
Sorry dear, i tried to let you off the hook, but you
keep coming back for it.
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Saba at least you admit you drinks an expensive drinks.
Don’t forget one think Colonel Aways h*tes, women’s who drinks and associates with infidels: your sentences will be stoning to death because you have marries many times before.
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Simbe
His body guards could well be his relatives not to mention clansmen. That does not make him Qabiiliste, does it? Again, they could be anyone? That is a matter of personal safety in an otherwise dangerous place.
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Nomy,
Sorry i am dealing with Cayayaan.
As they say mone can capture so many flies with drip
of honey than a drip of Sibir.
I was trying to educate those whose hearts are sickened
by clan ha'tred.
Yes Nomy, he is not politically savvy, that is where you come
into play. You can not blame a man you don't afford him your expertice can you?!.
You gave your support to others.
And, trust me , as it is now, you can not afford him to resign.
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You see the difference you ill bahving Simbe aka Gacaliye.
Even when i am refuting you, i am educating you.
Learn something, you way passed the age.
Your talk is inferior.
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Shanta
Aweys was unwilling spectator at that time when he had no power of his own.
He was wrong to go to Kismayo while leaving red eyes behind to keep the loot of the Shabeeles. That cost him dear. I believe, overall, he is not Qabiiliste.
Saba
Politics is done behind the scenes but is played in public.
If what you are saying is right, that something different happened in Khartoum but Aweys could not say it the right way, then he should retire. Politics is all about strategic position and taking advantage of your opponent’s weaknesses. If Aweys went to Khartoum to meet Shariif and the UN advised Shariif NOT to meet him, that is a big coup for Aweys. He would have said it in public. He can’t be that generous, can he?
Shariif said it I public. I am willing to meet him.
Aweys refused that offer in public.
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Nomadic
“No, no, I don’t believe Aweys is Qabiiliste” If he is not qabiliste who are his body guards, then you have your answer.
Ma la isku dheelaa
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He knows the storry of saxib cabdulahi ibn cumar a well
quated Muxadith, if you know what that means.
During Al khalifa Omar binulkhatab's rule , Omar heard rumors
that the Saxibi drinks. He one day sneaked in his Home and quote
him drinking.
Omar said, Oh Abdullah i caught you today red handed, there you will be
lashed 80 lashes.
Saxabi said, i violated one rule but Khalifa Omar you violated three.
Allah says -1 Do not sneak in in others Homes and you did.
2 Do not go to homes without saluting the home owner and you did.
3 Do not spy in one another and you spied on me.
Gacaliye i will be drinking drinks that i like in my home.
Islamically it is not a violation.And it will be an expensive drink dear,
not the metanol your likes drink.
I wonder where a drunkard like you will be drinking and stumbling around.
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Saba said
“and why is he not joining his clan the Hawiye?!
You dump: The man didn’t care Hawiye or any body else, even if he is working with the devil himself, the only thing he cares is to be Shura leader and Somalia he set up the agenda of the day.
He want reinvent Somalia and Eedo Saba I can promise you one thing this can happen in the south but make no mistake.: It will never happen In Puntland or Somaliland. We will be two Somalia for ever…………….
Good night
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Gacaliye ,
I always knew you were Simbe, but then again you were a
great pretender to be a Somali whi lost his culture .
I mean who wouldn't after coming from Wardheer to Stockholm
or shall i say Ghetos of stockholm.
Back then when you gave your number to yourself , i said
to myself i could be wrong.
Little that i knew that it was all about hunting people, you
thought in your twisted mind that others may call for Faduul.
My freind, you don't have to agree with me and Aways knows this storry.........
Follow next Post.
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Nomad,
If Dahir is not qabiliste, then Abdullahi Yusuf is a saint! Then how in the world will you explain Dahir’s involvement in selecting Master Thief Indhacade to be the governor of a region when Abdiqasim was the president? We are famous with that old saying of “Scratch my back” which in Somalia could only mean Affare Qabil.
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You where wise girl, but when you call such man a wise man, Saba said ” Holy looking white attire”
Eedo Saba, this man will sentenced you to death just you said before some nice words about Jew in HOL-
There wilol be no Gin and Tonic in Tora Bora stile government or tell me now you have been rehabilitated and humble follower to Sheik Hassan Dahir, and you fully accept the new order.
Or may be I miss the whole point………….
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Nomy,
Politics is what happens behind the scenes.
Something happened in Khartoum and Aways is not a good speaker.
Since he took my advice of clothing and polishing up the beard,he
might take my advice on below post to speak to the public more openly.
Sharif is under the controll of UN and he was denied ,sorry "adviced"
to not meet with Aeays in khartoum.
The Hawiya cause offered to Aways was put to waste by Aways.
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Ibn Somal,
Is Dahir going to bring a real value to your many causes? Do you honestly believe that this day and age, Somalia is divided along sectarian lines? Are there any Somalis known to us who are vehemently denying Islam to be the religion and guiding force behind our decisions? Or is just some of us are you using Islam to steer power towards their side? Dahir, much like Abdiqasim can’t deliver peace without the appeasement of Jama Ak47 and Huborow RPG.
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Saba
No, no, I don’t believe Aweys is Qabiiliste. I am sure of that. But he is stubborn which more detrimental than Qbiilistenimo.
Yes, we won a pyrrhic victory in virtue of our refusal to accept defeat.
As far as we know, Aweys declared in public that he had no intension of meeting Shariif in Sudan. Aweys said he will not meet Shariif while Shariif made it clear that he wants to meet him.
He DOES NOT want to meet anyone. That is what he said.
We don’t know what he wants for Somalia.
All we know is what he said in public. That is war war war.
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And Adolfo Hitler didn't come up with Barbarossa while entertaining Stalin, and Dahir is not qabiliste but Ayatollah Khomeini's Somali version.
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Nomad
Without a shred of doubt, nomads strung together with great resilience to meet the inevitable obstacles and defeated the less formidable but well equipped Ethiopian army.
Shanta
It must noted that neither Hiralle nor Shaati were committed to their decisions. They did not stay flexible in their approach, after all they were self appointed warlords.
In my book warlords come and go depending on the nature of their strength or that of their associates mainly clan or exterior force with its own interse.
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saba; dadkan wa cajib. Two weeks ago they certain the sheikh had a change of hear of he would make peace with shariff. A week ago they were saying the sheikh was not allowed to live Eritrea as he was under control and that he was begging to be removed of terror list in return for accepting gov. Now they are cursing him for returning to muqdisho without hiding in a tank. funny folks.
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Do you know Nomy Somalis have been brain washed the last
20 years. They are made to accept the status que as an unchangeable.
VOA and BBC participate to make that a fact of life.
Aways is the only one in the political arena of Somalia today who
beleives that IT IS MORE THAN POSSIBLE TO BRING ABOUT ONE NATION under God.
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Baadiyow,
remember in adeer "garcase's" Somalia even educated women would be considered as no more than properties, with no right to views. The latest Afghani law an example.
Nomadka lol,
sister gabarta geelka is going to sue you to copyright violation, so be ready to pump out big green bucks, kkkkkkkkk.
Shanta,
sorry bro, there aren't many so called leaders take retirement free willingly. Mr.Garcase is follows that tradition.
Fiqi,
Aweys can candidate and try to convince us after in about 20 months, must make 180-degree turn soon, not fake religious appeal or m**derous Al-Habab methods as a ladder to political power.
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Nomy,
Waxaadan ogeen eedeeda ma lihid.
Do you know the very thing Fiqi is accusing of Aways,
the man rejected it.
Balkanixed Somalia requires Aways's support.
Hawiya total rule to be for the south just like Puntland Darood
required Aways support, courtesy of UNDP.
In Sudan Aways rekected the Hawiye delegation with Hawiye persuation.
He wanted a political solution with Sharif camp. UN refused Sharif to meet with Aways
personally,lest he be convinced to Some sort of agreement.
The very thing the man is against of the likes of Fiqi are accusing him of.
Man is for ONE SOMALIA , don't take that away from him.
Yes dear, Nomads(Hawiya) defeated Habashi, have i not told you
i can be convinced. For that my dear i am a non Nomad.
Go ahead convince me Sharif will bring ONE SONALIA for you.
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Nomad,
If a commander can't win a battle-- you hold on to him as if he was Morgan or Omar Jess giving him the benefit of doubt at every occasion. Same could be said about Barre Hirale or Shatigudud. When is would their service to society expire?
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And finally my dearest is giving the Nomads some credit. The Nomads defeated the mighty Ethiopians. Did we or did we not?
And what do we do with a military commander that can’t win a battle?
And who fights an asymmetrical warfare in the open plains?
Saba dearest, I am sorry but I think Aweys is not that shrewd wheeler dealer I once though of. He is not a bad man as a person but he is dangerously stubborn.
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Fiqi dear,
Poetry can not be mingled with politics.
One is romantic, the other is tough business.
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If the present government is willing to engage the opposition and if it fails, would the opposition denounce violence and wait for general elections? I think Sheik Sharif has scored a point in that statement. Perhaps Dahir is interested in replaying Ali Mahdi vs. Aided’s carnage in the 21 century.
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Fiqi always the Fiqi, thanx bro keep up the good work.
Despite our human errors, WE need and deserve men/women with vision and patience.
God bless Somalia
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Saba
Indeed if Aweys decides at last to join his commrades and show statesmanship with tolerance and diplomacy, then i don't see why Somalia can not accept him. He may as well campain for future presidency and convince us that he is ready to lead.
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fiqi,
if only we knew what retirement means, then passing the torch would be acceptable is Somalia. How would one expect to receive tons of money (aid) from donor nations and at the same time treat them as if they were the mortal enemies? Would the Arabs willing to support Somalia in these desolate times? Clear strategy as you said is the only remedy for this nation.
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Fiqicigaal
Your mum feed you well and you hold ground and Somalia want no soldiers. World humans don’t want soldiers and no old man. Somalis want new man. No offence but you are good human. Hold the ground. Somalia freed small children and mothers not old men.
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And if i may add, Somalia needs decent educated politicians who care for the sole interest of our suffering people. That is what we need and deserve.
The last thing Somalia want to have is old soldeirs who can not mix diplomacy with strategy.
I say to them, it is high time you step aside and pass the torch to those who can see us through these hard and difficult times for god sakes.
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Fiqi,
I had no Ogaden in my mind, no i wasn't talking
about that. Last time i checked Ogaden was not free.
I am talking about 3 hawiya sub clans who freed somalia
from Ethio lately.
If you want to write history and say Aways is not the one
who led such resistance, then that is for you to hold.
I said you are emotional because of how you wanted to portray
the man. If he is a clanist, we will know soon.
After all it is the best times for Hawiya NOW, he should join,
any clannist would. Would you not agree ?!
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Saba
Perhaps you are the only one on the forum who is being emotional about the whole issue, no wonder you walked away from reality when you portrayed Aweys as the only hero, the superhuman who single handedly liberated ogaden or south Somalia for that matter.
Of course, Aweys is a clan chief and if not for his 'C' boys who protected him all the way from airport50 to the city and who are his body guards 24/7, he would have been shot dead on the spot. Somalia would have been different and believe me apart from his internal clan no Somali and i mean no Somali would have shed a drop of a tear for this old fool.
And whether Sharif was introduced to 'US' as you put it, is beside the point. Sharif has shown imense talent and marvellous diplomacy to lead his people and sail them in smooth waters unlike the extremist who can only advocate genocide but can hardly talk about peace and stability.
Aweys did not liberate us from the Amhara, he ran away for his life and left those teen agers to deal with the mighty army of the enemy.
But if you were referring to the 77- 78 ogaden war, then you wrongly gave Aweys a glory that was acheived by thousands of freedom fighters including the then Somali national army and Jabhadii Somali galbed. Aweys was not the commander in chief, he was only an officer among many, a simple battalion commander.
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Fiqi,
Well said, "Any sweet talk by a fanatic will only mislead us. Aweys is a soldeir, he is neither a prominent scholar nor is he a diplomat, he is nothing but a clan chief. We need more than that".
If this guy got enough of Eritrean anjera, pork soup and returned home, you should know those IDPs at Ceela Shabiyaha got enough of miserable life under trees are also longing to return home. Now the raw-meat eaters are gone, why not give our citizens peaceful existence so that they can plan their already difficult lives?
I said once, "the biggest disservice Siad Barre did against Somalia was he left Col. Yussuf, Col. Aweys, Col.Turki, Col.Riyoole and Gen.Caydoon/Caydiid alive".
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And if by "soldier" you mean a military man, i am here
to express my view and say THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT SOMALIA IS MISSING,
a SOLDIER.
THE FLIGHT OF MILITARY MEN FROM sOMALIA IS WHAT CAUSED US TO DEAL WITH
PETTY THIEVES LIKE QANYARE.
Had there been Soldier(s) enough in Somalia ,things would have been different by now.
No need for UNDP beggers anymore.
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When a Somali thinks, he thinks with his emoions,
particularly with Male species of Somalis.
"a clan chief"?!
Allright. And why is he not joining his clan the Hawiye?!
Why not take advantage of that? Sharif is Hawiya after all,
a child introduced to you by Aways.
Second, he was outside of the country during liberation!!!!!!!!!!.
Is that you saying that Fiqi?!!
Who liberated YOU from Amhara if not Aways's tribe.
He was outside yes, leadership of resistance must be spared, arms and
inteeligence must be provided to the foot soldier.
Who was going to do that Mr Fiqicigal?!! Sorry, but may ask, by YOU?!!
Khalid Mushcal is outside of his home leading resistance,
Arafat did, Charles De Gauil did , Ayatulaah Khomeini did for 40 long years,
and many ,many more.
So why is that wrong?!
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Any sweet talk by a fanatic will only mislead us. Aweys is a soldeir, he is neither a prominent scholar nor is he a diplomat, he is nothing but a clan chief. We need more than that.
Speaking of the infidels he should know that he is the one who spent two or so years in exile with the biggest infedil in the region, Afawerke. And he has the audacity to show us a speck that is in Sharif's eye while he fails to notice the log that is in his own eye. Isn't that hypocrisy?
Unlike this war mongering Saudi pupet, Sharif is a peacemaker who strives to stop war and save innocent lives. Most importantly his peace initiative will eventually bring homeless Somali IDPs back to their settlements to start their lives afresh in a peaceful envirnoment.
Never the less, I don't want us to shun Aweys as long as he is willing to come to the conference table and see light through the eyes of the hungry and the dying families in mogadisho and other parts of the south.
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I say smile because you have a pleasent smile,
unlike that smile of the crying, Momy calling pirate-
who spoiled the image of Pirates in history.
What a shame.
A crying momy calling pirate.... Only in Somalia.
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Well done Aways.
Now you need to ask questions?
Who is doing what and for whom.
BTW Hassan, grace to your wife.
You looked splendid in that modest yet Holy looking white attire.
An Ayatullah indeed.
You need to smile more often, and practice your speaches.
Personality and Enigma is needed in politics and preaching as well.
You read the Qur'an, remember what Nabi Musa said praying....
Waxlil-cuqdattan min lisaanii.
Even if one spoke to God, one needs a charisma to win the public.
If Moses cs needed it, you do even more.
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War garcase, Xassan Aweys caruurtaan Al-Habab/Al-Shabab/Al-Haraam waad biloow'day waase lagala wereegay, amarka waxay toos uga qataan your main employer Abow Bin Li*r in Tora Bora.
By the way log onto: http://www.aminarts.com/APR_19_2009.htlm.
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Simbe
Waano abuuris baa ka horaysay.Ninkan (diidgaal) aad waaninaysid wuxuu ka haray kuwii uu Nabi Nuux 950 sanno waaninayay.
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Diidgaal
You may know we all Somalis are Muslims and we should admit that first or say now otherwise I have all my ears listening.
When you accept that you must understand here is political forum which some times we can attack each other politically and can sometimes bad mouth each other of the consequent.
Some people like you misunderstand the whole point and believe here in this FADHIKUDIRIR you can always have your filthy mouth about our holy religion and breaches here to some one.
From now on, tell your fellow blood brothers Hymohamed, Samori Alqashin and etc. don’t breaches us here about our beloved religion The holly Islam.
There are horrible war going on in our country and I know everybody have has an opinion and solutions and I am wise enough to accept other people opinion without calling them Kufar or Dabadhilif which in Somali didn’t even know what does mean.
You need to think Aqiro, cadabulqabri and Adduun because it’s clear and strictly forbidden to call some one Kufar whom you never meat except this polical forum.
I hope this is enough to rethink and let our religion stay out of this ………………!!
Ilaah towbadda ha tuso.
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War baroordiiqda naga daaya adinkuu ahaa kuwii u
tacsiyeynayay AU markii dad laga dilay aanan oran
waxba markay dadka dilayeen. AU waa naxaysaa waana
lagu qasbayaa jecloow ana diidanoow, waana dhaceysaa.
Wadanka ma laha AU mana lo garnaqayo ayaga iyo kuwa
ka soo horjeeda. Ama heshiis bay ku baxeen dhaha ama
diida inay xoog ku baxeen, laakiin waa baxayaan.
Dadka la yiri ha la joojiyo dilkoodana waa dadka gaar
ay u ugaarsdaan kuwa ethiopia u shaqeeya waaba la soo
qaban qaar ka mid ah, waana la ogaan. Laakiin dabadhilif
iyo gaalo raac kuwaas u maleynmaayo in la deynayo ilaa
ay wadanka isaga cararaan.
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My worry is that this guy no longer has any influence over al-Shabab. These guys have eyes and ears only for a certain Saudi guy who likes caves. If he says kill your fellow they will kill fellow somalis. We have brainwashed kids who lost all somaliness years ago. They only respect Saudis and Pashtoons.
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"infidel" and "Kufaar" are trade marks like Mcdonald and Chanel!!. Who is gonna buy this now in Somalia. Xaaji, jiib kalam taani.
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The man is nor credible, the same day he declared holly war against African peace keepers the killing restarted. The only thing he cares is power and he will not accept less than that. He is one of power hungry diehard generals and colonels we have seen before. Siyaad Barre Caydiid, Cabdulahi Yusuf, Xasan Dahir Aweys. They should not be in power at all, they are military personal and power of government belong to civilian rule not an old colonel.
The killing will stop if such man denounce violence and retire. Ilaah taas ha tuso, Cabdulahi Yusuf Yeey did that despite his diehard attitude toward power.
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And receiving material and moral support from an infidel nation 'Eritrea' is halal.
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It is a half-hearted condemntaion of murder but it is a start. Next time I hope he calls for unconditional cessation to all killing. The big question: Will al-Shabab fighters listen to him? Do they have any respect for him at all?
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Please! Is he trying to distance from the very industry which he founded? he ought to know that liquidation at any form is anti Islam.
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Sh Hassan Dahir Aweys needs to go beyond mere condemnations of the killings of the ICU members and must condemn the senseless massacre of the women and children of Mogadishu.
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Sh Hassan Dahir Aweys needs to go beyond mere condemnations of ICU members and must condemn the senseless killings of the women and children of Mogadishu.
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