By TOM MALITI
Tuesday, January 06, 2009
NAIROBI, Kenya (AP) — Three masked gunmen fatally shot a Somali aid worker Tuesday, as the U.N. envoy to Somalia said the United Nations should create a Baghdad-style Green Zone in the African country so he can base all his aid workers there.
The U.N. now keeps its international Somalia staff members in Kenya to shield them from the risk of attacks and kidnappings. In 2008, at least 13 aid workers were killed in Somalia, which has not had an effective government since 1991.
"It is very difficult to address (the) Somali situation from Nairobi (the Kenyan capital). I think it is even negative," the envoy, Ahmedou Ould-Abdallah, said during a news conference in Nairobi, Kenya. "We should have a Green Zone, if necessary, in Somalia."
Ould-Abdallah did not give a time frame for creating a fortified, walled-off area like the Green Zone in Iraq used by U.S.-led forces, but it would be costly and time-consuming.
Somalia is now at a dangerous crossroads. The president resigned in late December, saying he has lost most of the country to Islamic insurgents, and the Ethiopian troops who have been protecting the fragile, U.N.-backed government have begun pulling out, leaving a dangerous power vacuum. Islamic groups are starting to fight among themselves for power.
On Tuesday, three gunmen shot Ibrahim Hussein Duale, a 44-year-old Somali who was a school feeding monitor in the Gedo region of central Somalia, the U.N. World Food Program said. Duale leaves a wife and five children, the agency said in a statement.
Somalia has been beset by anarchy and an insurgency that has killed thousands of civilians and sent hundreds of thousands fleeing. Foreigners, journalists and humanitarian workers are frequently abducted for ransoms in the Horn of Africa nation, which the United States fears could become a haven for al-Qaida.
On Tuesday in the capital, Mogadishu, the spokesman for the small African Union peacekeeping force said an AU soldier was killed during a land-mine clearing operation.
The lawlessness also has allowed piracy to flourish off the coast. In northeastern Somalia, a regional security minister said France had handed over 19 Somali pirates to local authorities.
Ould-Abdallah said he hopes an upcoming parliamentary vote — expected in Somalia by Jan. 28 — to name a new president will not be corrupt like past votes that have been tainted by secret deals.
"Somalis have to work to expand their government, try to have a government of national unity and vote for a new president," Ould-Abdallah said.
AP Writers Mohamed Olad Hassan and Salad Duhul contributed to this report from Mogadishu, Somalia.
Shanta, The UN had warned that presidential campaigning the elites shouldn't particpate. I consider you an elite, since you have three Baraako in Baidoa.
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They can settle in Baidao and fortify Bay project compound to their specs- therefore sustaining my monthly income form the recently vacated rental units, or should I say abandoned for security reasons by the Hon. Puntaland MP's. Sorry folks, its not personal but real economics!
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UN who are you anymore? You killed Somali 18+. Nobody cares for your dirty.
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UN who are you anymore? You killed Somali 18+. Nobody cares for you dirty.
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MO5
You have a point and i wouldn't have allowed Caraweelos to get away with the caana boodho thing. Of course one can take harmless jokes and it is healthy , but to go that low and abuse people emotionally is unacceptable. There are so many insensitive foolish people in that part of the world.
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Yes! A Green Zone to protect the good Sheik, Nur ‘executioner’ Cade, and Ahmed Abdisalaan from the same people they are suppose to represent and bring peace to..LOL.
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Laa mushkila, good nite MO5.
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Caraweelos,
Hadaad wax uga sheegi lahayd,waxaan kaaga soo dgex bixi lahaa PC ga.
Ilaa xad wixii suura gal ah,waaaacdi,anigu qabiil ma taageero,marar badan waxaan difaacaa qabiilo aanan waxba ii gelin,qabiil aan ilaa xad caayona ma jiro.
Qabiilada si guud waa loo xifaaleyn karaa,si asluub ku dhisan,laakiin haddii meeshu tirsi iyo cay noqoto,maxaa la kala faa'iidayaa?
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MO5, mid kaleetana waan kuu sheegaa ha qaracmin markii wax laga sheego dhuloos, laakiin sida aad iigu xanaaqday markii Adan soo qaadaay sheekadii qayilaada. Meeshaan waa inaad u qaadata hadalka si caddi, haadii aad ka doodi kartis waa ok. Talow maxaad sameyn lahayd intaan Ogaden ka sheegnay aniga iyo Saba haddaan Dhuloos wax uga sheegi lahayn.
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Sorry Caraweelos,
Waa runtaa. Illen doqon looma hiisho.
Waan qaatay canaantaada.
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MO5, sow anigii haddaayey kuu digey inaadan soo gelin meel aan ku le'ekeyn, markaad lahayd apology bixi iyo biq biq.
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adamjama,
Maxaan nacasnimo ahayn oo aad soo kordhin lahayd haddii Soomaalidu ku oggolaato?
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adamjama,
You are good inyour current situation,which will never get better.
Iam not in Ethiopia,and you can not sell me in your Rufyaan Bussiness.
Any ways Hooyo..inaad soo hadal qaado,waa caadadiina, Saba ayaa horey idiin sheegtay!
Hooyadaa amxaarada ka kici,markaas ila hadal.
Waa la xoraynayaa Ogaden,marka Soomaaliya xorowdo,arrimahana dhexdhexaad ka noqo.
Aniguna caano booraha Caraweelo sheegtay baan kaa difaacayey,adna anigaad daalac ii raacday.
Waayehee ku jir.
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Adan Jama,
Lol!!!, brother good nite and I will take the time off too. Thank you for the challenge and the laugh.
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Carreelo;
I enjoyed debating with you but it is time to go because every "Doc-ka-yeer" riff-raffs and their mother will join us soon. I don't mind discussing any subject with you but some low lives just turn me off. He was writing yesterday speaking of his people "and some people may see that since they have many things in common with the Isaaqs it is easier to go along with them than to live with the lowly thinking people of the South,as Majeerteens ,Hawiyas and the Others ,let alone the Ogadens who are not Free". and today he is telling us "Inta ka horreysa iyagu dagaalka ha sii wadeen,Soomaaliyana arrimaheeda dhex-dhexaad ha ka noqdeen Illeen iyagu waa Ogadenia e'". Sounds like a naging wife.
Bye till tomorrow.
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The Best Comment Of The Day: By; Fiqi
"In my book, a warlord is a psychopath with insatiable lust for power. A mindless thug with no value for the human life."
Congrat Fiqi
You are the Platinum Of the Forum,because you won the most prizes here in the past few months.
Your heritable comments and quotes deserve to be kept in the records.
And you won a prize: A contract with Radio Jabhad and Pirates which broadcasts in the NE and Mogadishu,you will be a political commentator with no bodyguards in Mogadishu and Bosaso.
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Ogaadeenka dhulkooda waa lala xoraynayaa,marka Soomaalidu iyadu is xorayso.
Inta ka horreysa iyagu dagaalka ha sii wadeen,Soomaaliyana arrimaheeda dhex-dhexaad ha ka noqdeen.
Illeen iyagu waa Ogadenia e'.
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Moreover, the days you got closer to the Villa and any other Government place, was when you were licking Siad Barre's boots and it is long gone.
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Lee Adan Jama qaraar ku saabsan waxaadan weligaa gaarin ma la soo shir tagtay, mid ogow nin Ogaden weligii Somaliya M/weyne kama noqon, haddana kama noqonaayo..Markaa Soomalida kale ayay u taala M/nimadaas ama Hawiye, Dir, Darood kale, D&M iyo inta kale. In our books you are considered stranger who lives in Ethiopia, so you better get with their program like any other ethnics from there. Mise weligaa waxaa ku jiree sidii hadalkii "Aji kaba la' kumana soo adaana" ne qui ne la.
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Carraweelo;
Baroortu orgiga ka weeyne, ma waxaad aaminsantihiin in Ogadeen Villa Soomaliya idinka hor taagnaa oo Yur Yur idin lahaa 30 sano markii danbana ood adinka iyo Amxaaradiinii Villa Soomaaliya dagteena ma Ogaadeen baa idinka soo saaray oo idiin qoonsaday. Ilaahay ka cabso Ogaadeen danbi aan Amxaaro iyo Tigree nacayb ka aheeyn kuma maageeysaane. Soomaali oo dhan ayaa war lord karaahiyeeysatay oo saasaa Vilada lagu waayey. 30 sano ka hor waxaad eedeeyneeyseen Daarood, Hawiye, Isaaq, Reer Xamar ood laheeydeen iyagaa madaxnimada naga hor taagan, maantana Ogaadeenbaa dusha laga saaray. Bal Akhriso gabaygii Hurgumo si aad u ogaato eedu inteey gaarsiisneeyd waagaas
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Adan jama
"Hadii ay kaligood dagaalamaana ceeb ma aha ee waa amaan dheeraad ah. Mida kale hadii ay dalka xorta ah dhexdiisa ka dagaalamaana isna waxeey ka daganyihiin Kismaayo ilaa xuduudka Kenya".
Meesha ay sarta ka quruntay ba waa far kaliya fool ma dhaqdo dhinaca Itoobiya. Dhinaca Soomaliyana anigay waxay ila tahay in ONLF ay kala dhex gasho Soomaali is dagaalaya oo cadowgii ay la dagaalmayeen ka soo tagay, sow caqli xuma maaha. Kaalyay idinka dhan prioritaga ayaa idinka wada xun sida Xassan Turki oo Raas Kambaoni ka dagaalya asagoo ka soo caraabay Qabridahare iwm. Xaggan weligiin kuma guuleysan, halkaana kuma guuleysanyaan waayo kuligeen Raxan is daba ordeysa oo meelna gaarin baad wada tihiin. Ogaadenka dega xaduuda iyo NFD isku dan tihiin idiinma arkaan, kuwa kalana Kismayo iuo Jubooyinka waa tay maalin dhoweyd lahayeen jabhada ONLFta hana galao tagto dhibka iyo dagaalka. Ina adeerow xagee la idinka haystaa, raggii ugu jaajus badnaa laga soo bilaabo 1800s ee Amxaarka dhulkooda ka haysta u kala dhuumanayey yay ahayeen ma dadbaad ku caayi kartaa Itoobiya ayay aadeen markay dad oo dhan ay maalin kasta aadan, qoloda kale ee aad la tartameysid maba gaartide ama 1978 ka hor xornimadan oo aydan istaahilin ha u dagaalan ama Afweyne hala dagaaleene. Maanta wax idinka liita oo oo idinka hooseeya miyaa jira, dhul la'aan, degenaansho la'aan iyo kaba la'aan meel kasta ma la taagan tihiin.
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Carraweelo;
Marar badan baan kaa maqlay ONLF xaq bay u leeyihiin ineey Isticmaarka la dagaalamaan, waanad ku saxsantahay oo Soomaali oo dhan baa kula qabta. Hadii ay kaligood dagaalamaana ceeb ma aha ee waa amaan dheeraad ah. Mida kale hadii ay dalka xorta ah dhexdiisa ka dagaalamaana isna waxeey ka daganyihiin Kismaayo ilaa xuduudka Kenya. Lakiin adigoo difaacaya qolo kaligeed inteey kaba gashatay Ethiopia aaday 1978kii oo waliba sodon sano laga kari waayay Muslinka ka fariista kursigaani 120 qabiil ayuu ka dhexeeyaaye, sideebaad cid kale wax uga sheegtaa?
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Adan Jama
Waan la socdaa intoodaas oo dhan ayagoo kula degan baysan oran Ogadenia National Liberation Front. Maxa idinka takooray, mise idinka kaliya ayuu dhul idinka maqan yahay sida isu xijinaysaan una takooreysaan inta kale. Ma is weydiisay sababta aad sidaas ugu dhaqmeysaan?. Kaaga darane weligeed lama arag meel ay addunka ka dhacday Jabhad xoreyn oo ku dhex dagaalameysa dhulkii xorta ah oo ay leeyihiin waan ku biiraynaa. Shuqul noocee ah waataas, shuqul Ogadenia.
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Danan70,
Table of two brothers doesn't represent all Somalis, I wouldn't mind if that was the gentlemen's agreement brothers, who had disputed before. But when it was all inclusive and elders from every region were present, it was boycoted by the same two brothers who are signing the later. Therefore, Djoubuti agreement is null in the eyes of many Somalis.
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Carraweelo;
Aniga waa kula kaftamaayey, waana is kaftan naqaan ee cidna ha igu lamaanin. Odagana waa iska deeynayaa inkastoo aan jeclaan lahaa inuu danbiga iska dhaqo. Mida kale waxaan ku weeydiiyey, marar badan baan kaa maqlay adigoo dad ku leh orda Ogaadeenya ku noqda, ma waadan ogeeyn in inta laf uu Cumar Maxamuud u kala baxo ineey laba ma ogiye inta kale Itoobiya dagaan(sida Mohamed Cumar iyo Yonis cumar). Ma waadan ogeeyn in Abraahiino (Reer Biciidyahan iyo Reer Maxamud) intooda badan Itoobiya dagaan. Ma waadan ogeeyn in Tanade iyo Dhulbahante badan Itoobiya dagaan. Ma waadan ogeeyn in Isaaq badan Itoobiya dagaan. Ma waadan Ogeyn in Shiikhaal iyo Habar-Gidir badan Itoobiya dagaan. Dadkoo dhan orda qoxootiyohow naga taga ku dheh. Gacaliso, see wax yihiin?
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Where there is life there is hope. We hope all somalis will come to the table. Already we see the pressure to Asmara group and Alshabab and company inside Somalia. It is time to talk and form a government composed of all. If UN can create green is positive at least they be part of all ...
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Waxaa ka daran mid diin iyo xornimo doonimo ku qaraabta, oo maatada laayntooda ku taqasuasay, intii uusan cadow kale gaarin. Markaa warlord noocaas iyo mid kale waa waxa aad la kala safan tihiin oo Soomaali oo idil halkaas dhigay. Midkaana kan ka fiican ma shaqeynayso, mida kalena ONLF warlords ha aruursadaan qalabkooda oo dhulkii ma huraank aaha ha u kicitimaan waayo midki gadan lahaa ayaa ku soo foodahaya meelaha ay ilmaha ku qalanayaan, qabuurahana ay xoreynyaan ayagoon dhulkooda soo xoreysan, dadka qaarkooda shquql may yeeshaan oo dankootada ka talaiyaan, intay ummad kale u kala dhex boodayaan maalinba mid. Iska qala sakiin laqa ONLF losers.
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adamjamac
Well said!
In my book, a warlord is a psychopath with insatiable lust for power. A mindless thug with no value for the human life.
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Adamjama,
Right on the money!
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CV giisa waxaan ka tagay xornimo u dirirka ah, oo afweyne dulmigiisa ka gilgishay.
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Adan Jama,
Taariikhdii odeyga oo gadaal gadaal iyo hore hore aad u qortay waxaan maqleynay ilaa iyo kolkii HOL forum keeda la isku arkayey, xataa hadda kajan waxaad ka dhigaysaa inaad ka naxsan aakhiradiisa, oo qurwaan dhurwaa ama sixir aad diyaar ula tahay. Waxaan aad uga helaa sida aad u soo koobto Somaliya dhibkeeda oo dhan odayga maskiinka, wayeelka, beerkana laga bedelay. Miyaanad marnaba lagu soo barin dhaqanka odeytinimda in la isku tixgeliyo, mise inuu habaar kugu dhaco ayaad dooneysaa, haddeysan ba ku hayn sida kuwo badan oo kale. Lol!
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Carraweelo;
Odayga waa iska deeyn lahaaye qolo meeshaana ah ayaa marba igu soo qaadeeysa oraahyo uu magaciisu ku jiro. Laakiin wax been ah odaga kama sheegin(Xaasha), xirfadii uu bilaabay kuna caan baxay (war lordism) unbaan woxoogaa ka hadlay (in a historical context). Adigase waxaan ku weeydiiyey, Odaga wax "Towbad" ah ama danbi qirasha ah, ama cafis weeydiisha ah wali malaga hayaa suu u retiregroobay?
Walaaleey waxba waxbay ka daran yihiine, odaga intaan lacag isugu darno Quraan hala saaro!
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Wiil Isaaq,
UN Trusteeship for Somalia means Somaliland, Puntland and Southern are included.
Adan jama,
Weli Yusuf baa ka dhex qaylinaaya? goormaan kaa cuudiyaa, waayo tan waa xad dhaafe. War goobiloow, gobiloow ahaa... Lol!!
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momo519;
I agree with you in saying "If we peek through the Ethiopian Intelligence, Colonel Yusuf would be listed as a freedom fighter and a former president". But you forgot one thing, they will define him as a freedom fighter and a president as long as he is serving their interest, however, when they are done with them like right now, they will tell him "go to Garowe & keep quiet"( waligaa ma maqashay Yeey oo leh waxaan ka ahayn Ethiopia waa dad walaalaheen?, He knows his limitations, he still remembers 6 years in Alam-Baqa. They also hand-cuffed good old boy Mohamed Dheere in front of all his supporters in Mogadishu, now is the time to peek in his file. That is exactly what they did to Charles Taylor & a lot of other African war lords, they finance them for a decade & then hang them at the end. Ethiopia was the only African government that participated in the Berlin conference of the partition of Africa in 1884, she knows the ABC's of "Divide & Rule". To Wiil-Isxaaq, what white men are you referring to? The two hom**exuals who are always advocate for your doomed recognition?
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Masha Allah,
First time I heard people willing to accept "trusteeship". Somaliland proposed to the UN in 1999, but nobody gave an ounce of attension. So my advice to you will be to hire white men and women so they could convince the UN to take the power from the likes of Mohamed Dhere and into well educated foreigners.
The UN does not listen to madow, it likes to give lectures to the madow.
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Forget about Green Zone, how about UN trusteship. The primitives are not done with each other, they just getting boosted for another round of fresh violence.
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Although I agree what adamjama said, I also cannot ignore the wisdom of sonofsomalia whereby "one man's warlord is another's hero". Is Colonel Yusuf a warlord? If yes, he just got a hero's welcome in Garowe and Galkaio. Is General Ade Muse a warlord? Is Colonel Barre Hiiraale a warlord? Is Colonel Riyale Kahin a warlord? Is Habsade a warlord? Is Colonel Aweys a warlord? Eng Hussein Aidid? Abdi Qeybdid? Gacmadhere? Ali Ghedi? Al-Hagi Muse Sudi? Prof. Dalxa? Ganacsade Qanyare? Ganacsade Atto? Prof Aden Madobe? Dr. Abdi Qasim?
Should the list go on or it makes a sense to define? If we peek through the Ethiopian Inteligence, Colonel Yusuf would be listed as a freedom fighter and a former president. :)
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Unless you were born on the run after 1991 in Lord knows were and under what circumstances, you should know who is a war lord. But I was addressing the UN & the International community who know very well who is a war lord in Somalia. All they have to do is peek through the CIA, NGOs, & Ethiopian intelligence archives from 1978. I don't think anyone is interested in your rudimentary & tainted list.
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Adamjama
Define warlord, according to my list, every Somali politician is warlord, every fake sheik is warlord. One man's warlord is another's hero.
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I suggest that the UN gives DIAZIBAM to all mogadishu residents daily with their food then the UN can do its job while reer muqdisho are sleeping otherwise gaw iyo gash maleh thats the decision of mogadishu residents NO GOVERNMENTS WE WANT JUNGLE LAW.
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I can never understand the logic of some of the things the UN does. They are calling for a green zone now when everything that could have been broken was broken right in front of their eyes by the very forces they endorsed i.e war lords & Ethiopia with no condemnation. Why didn't they think of green zone when Ethiopian troops were shelling civilian areas with impunity? Where were they when 16,000 civilians including women & children were slaughtered & 2.5 million were forced from their homes? Why are we fighting piracy today when they hijacked ships full of tanks, missiles, and oil, when we didn't lift a finger while they were hijacking food shipments for the displaced?. Why not? Let us build a green zone for the war lords & aid workers surrounded by Pakistani blue helmet soldiers who are paid $50/month. I thought we tried that formula during operation restore hope b/w Aideed & Ali Mahdi and it didn't work. How hard is it for the World to arrest all war lords like they did to Mohamed Dheere and start from clean slate? Hello, we don't have any problems but war lords whose sponsor Ethiopia is on its way out. Unless they face the reality on the ground, they will be building green zones until next Ice-age. Are we going to have a green zone in every city? Adam
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