
By MOHAMED SHEIKH NOR
Tuesday, January 13, 2009
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Gabre Yohannes Abate, the Ethiopian troop commander in Somalia watches during a farewell ceremony which took place in the presidential palace Tuesday Jan. 13, 2009 . (AP Photo/Mohamed Sheikh Nor)
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MOGADISHU, Somalia (AP) — Ethiopia handed over security duties in neighboring Somalia on Tuesday to a joint force of Somali government security forces and Islamic militiamen, a shift some fear will leave a power vacuum in the lawless African nation.
Somalis overwhelmingly welcomed the Ethiopians' withdrawal despite any guarantee that the Islamists would be able to restore peace.
The Ethiopian troops have been propping up Somalia's weak U.N.-backed government for two years amid a ferocious Islamic insurgency that has killed thousands of civilians and prompted the president to resign in December, saying he had lost the country to the Islamists.
The lawlessness also has allowed piracy to flourish off Somalia's coast. Last year, pirates seeking multimillion-dollar ransoms attacked 111 ships in the Gulf of Aden and seized 42 of them.
But the Ethiopians had said they would to end their unpopular presence as demanded under an October power-sharing deal signed between the Somali government and a faction of the Islamists.
"It is time Somalia stands on its own feet," said Ethiopian commander Col. Gabre Yohannes Abate, as he handed over security operations during a ceremony at the presidential palace in Mogadishu. "So we are saying goodbye to all Somalis and their dignitaries."
It was unclear when all of the thousands of Ethiopians will have departed. They were pulling out in stages, rather than all at once, and gave no exact dates for security reasons.
The pullout has received wide support from ordinary Somalis, officials and diplomats. Many had seen the Ethiopians as occupiers, and their two-year deployment has been a rallying cry for the insurgents to gain recruits even as the militants' strict form of Islam terrified people into submission.
"The insurgents have been fighting for the withdrawal of Ethiopians all this time," Prime Minister Nur Hassan Hussein said during the handover. "When the Ethiopians have begun withdrawing, there is no need for fighting again. I urge all Somalis to become peace-loving people."
The government called in the Ethiopian troops in December 2006 to oust an umbrella Islamic group that had controlled southern Somalia and the capital for six months.
Many saw the Ethiopian army, one of Africa's largest, as abusive and heavy-handed. Ethiopia long said it wanted to pull out after stabilizing Somalia, but opponents said Ethiopia — a mainly Orthodox Christian country — was interested in preventing an Islamist regime in neighboring Somalia.
The two countries have been rivals for decades, and fought over a southeastern region of Ethiopia populated principally by people of Somali origin.
Some feared the Ethiopians' departure would allow the strengthening Islamic insurgency to further take over. On Monday, Islamic insurgents attacked the presidential palace, resulting in heavy fighting with government troops, during which at least 11 civilians were killed.
The Islamist groups, once unified, have split since gaining more territory last year. They have begun fighting one another for control of several towns, with the government-allied Islamists claiming to be in charge of some of them.
Last year, Somalia's transitional government agreed to share power with a faction of the country's opposition, the Alliance for the Re-Liberation of Somalia, a relatively moderate group that split from the al-Shabab extremist group which has been at the center of the insurgency.
But al-Shabab, which the U.S. considers a terrorist organization, did not participate in the U.N.-brokered talks.
Hussein Siyad Qorgab, deputy chairman of the alliance faction, urged all to "come together and make a unity government."
"We are happy to see Ethiopian troops withdraw from Somalia ... we need to see them off, but we do not need to see them off with mortars or fighting," Qorgab said.
The U.N. envoy to Somalia praised the Ethiopians for honoring of a withdrawal commitment made with the power-sharing deal signed last year in Djibouti.
"The ball is now in the court of the Somalis, particularly those who said they were only fighting against the Ethiopian forces, to stop the senseless killings and violence," Ahmedou Ould-Abdallah said in a statement issued Tuesday in neighboring Kenya.
Fadumo Wehliye, who lost three of her eight children during the violence, described the Ethiopian pullout as "great" and said she would go back to home in Mogadishu.
"For the last two years ... I have been living in a makeshift house in the outskirts of the capital," she said. Now "I will return to my home."
Associated Press writers Salad Duhul and Mohamed Olad Hassan contributed to this report.
Bro Stick, I was teasing you and I was irritated by your alalas with the BOYS. If you think they can unite the country, I assure you that will never happen. They can't unite H people alone, now you can see the fragmentation that is forming in Southern Somalia, yet we haven't seen much. Lamadage, I tender my resignation to you effective today and I will be running President of Somalia, so that I can b'eat Mr. Brainy.. Nuur Cadde. Gacaliye, Piracy Queen is my third option.
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War waa wareey, Arraweelo as al-haram PR-woman is more dangerous than this amatour Dr. injurying himself with his IEDs, that is to say, he aways becomes the first victim of his product. Can't we guys offer the lady a more constructive assignment? I for one can offer her a great wedding and a job as my co-pirate on super speed boat in our Puntland.
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Araweelo
Since there is melt down in America and another total unemployement of your TFG I'm glad you accepted my offer. As you said we have to work content, method and PR stuff in US and rest. I'm sure the product proceed the PR campain. In business world Product with its speficic character rule in the market. So choose the staff, packaging director and marketing manager. My suggestion, since product is already devolped with little tunning here or there, MO is good packaging with his colorful wording...lol. Rest of cadre or shall I say staff is in your discretion.
Who said HOL adversaries cannot agree on things. I know for sometime we can work projects together under my supervision.......lol
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The worst they can do is what i meant
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Marwo Caro Abu-Stick huh? LOOOOOL
I would take that as a compliment!! I do know very little about the boys, but i know one thing about them, they are united to rid our enemy out of our country, and they are using a method that can unite MOST of Somali people. I never said they are perfect but compared to the alternatives, i think they are the best option. Remember, what counts the most should be the point view of Somalis inside the country because they live through this.
As me challenging the Dr. LOL far from it, He is our Sheikh and reporter from within. My religious understanding is very minimal, but i have feeling for our beloved country, and above all, I have no suspicion from those who use religion for the good of the country, but i have seen tribal warlords and how low they can go!!
What is the worest these men can do if they succeed? I think to many of us in the west, the best they can do is implement Sharia, if the choice is sharia and chaos we had for the last two decade, what is your choice?
And i am glad you accepted Dr's offer, combining your tow strong willed ambition you would produce good result for the country, provided one of you don't assassinate the other LOL
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Caraweelos, I read your answer to Lamadage's offer as "Accapted"!!lool. One of you have to retreat after you move your stationary to his office.
I hope he is the one to retreat. We could not make the Radical Dr. to repent and come back to his Somaliness,but i hope your working with him will make him U-turn.
Good luck.
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Cara believe me i know lamadage isbaaraa waxay u tiillay sartii hooyooyinka oo maalin kasta markaas jidkaas marayo wuu i isbaareysan jiray maantana waa caalim lol!!
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Lamadage,
After TFGs disarray, I don't have much to do. I wouldn't mind being your PR and I am sure you don't need my resume(cause you know me about two years.) The only problem we may face is the content of your information, don't worry I am a master of censorchip(qad madow aan soo riiqanaa).
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Dr. Electrician,
I dont want to lose my leg with your low grade bombs,and even if i would join your J+Suuqmadow bussiness,iam scared by your work.
Many people around you are either missing,or lost their legs. You also attend beheadings-by-bilaawe,which is the most horrible thing to see.
If you change the route and stop the primitive justice you are campaigning for,there my be a compromise between you and I.
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Araweelo
I'm laughing on your esteemed effort to stop brother stick from reaping my fruits!!! LOL. Since when you become my sole custodian for my ideas or library?! LOL. May be I need to appoint you for my spokeswomen after doing International patent for all my contributions
Next time be careful from your pals...they may be real alshabab while doing damaashaad in HOL. More surprising on the way. May be MO5…LOL. Sorry wallaahi caawa seexan mayo saaxibkay MO5. Hey MO I’m kidding only for your colorful life…lol
Anyway, bro stick was honest all the time without giving him label. Only me and your pals can take titles according to HOL collections.
Dr Ali aka Lamadage
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Gaadh'haye I understand your descretion.
Im not on a payroll for anyone. Has no one ever taken interest just out of curiosity with no somali connection such as friends or wife.
I tell you the truth when i say im just trying to broaden my horizen and get into the discussions with all of you as a friend and not a foe.
i will not repost anything from here anyplace else. And i doubt my government would hire me for reserch or any other organization, probably they would higher a high class arab. lol
also nice to meet you i dont think i have seen you yet on the cyberspace. peace be with you.
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Abuu-S'tick
What is going on? you became over night a'lshabab penl'ord. I just can't believe that you are leaving the good Doc behind, instantly all of his work & g'lory of two years you want collect. Dear, no credit to you.
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Lamadage AKA DR. you have been crying about Abdullahi Yussuf for the last two years He is not ther anymore and left to his region in Puntaland..the only unsafe part of the country is your part what do you have in mind so far? as you can tell everything is on fire...what other excuse do have in mind or want to cry about?
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GABRE WHY YOU LEFT INDHACADDE ALIVE IS THIS OK?
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Shanta Somebody somewhere is very clever. Somebody knows that if we Somalis are left to ourselves, sooner or later, power and support will tilt to one group and a solution might be found. So, that somebody is not taking any chances. That somebody devised a back up plan that says, I don’t care who wins and what comes out it, all I want is the vicious cycle to continue. ASWJ, in this context, is the final back up plan. In other words, last resort spoilers.
Hiiraale and his mooryaans are the pioneers in this new venture as they happen to be closer to the border. Others will follow suit soon and old warlords will get re-energized.
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Gaadhka I think he is on an accelerated course to become an expert on Somali affairs, Or perhaps, he is in a fact finding mission to locate who to give that “Gabaati” to.
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Moorish, You’re asking too many sensitive questions, a bizarre thing for a foreign Berberi to indulge in what is delicate Somali affair. What’s your motif? Surely, you must be on the payroll of some dubious foreign organization whose intent is to gather intelligence, manipulate and exploit our differences.
Sadly we, naïve Somalis in here and other places, are giving away much info on silver for free. I am saying this to you because I’ve seen many anti-Islam blogs cite our comments here at HOL as evidence of how radical, anti-Western, Islamic extremist ideology flourishes and mushrooms in Somali cyber nets. I was surprised with the chilling way one writer referred to HOL as terr’rist leaning website.
Kindly take cognizance of the fact that we Somalis have no further secrets in hot demand to be unearthed. Our nation’s stomach is opened up for all to see, thanks to our lack of nationalism, and if I may add, the scarcity of political and spiritual consciousness not only in the body-politic of our nation but in the average minds of our street folks.
Surely you’re not asking all those weird questions for nothing. Enjoy fishing.
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Nomad Recyclable violence: it just keeps renewing, sustaining, and rejuvenating every 3.5 year cycle.This is our renewable energy!
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Therefore, both the shabaabs and the already disintegrating TFG have a potential challenger /obstacle in waiting.
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Ethiopia deployed their biggest plot yet. ASWJ will play the warlord and clan card when they want to challenge the TFG. They will play the religious card when they want to challenge the shabaabs and other religious groups.
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HOL Why are you blocking all my comments today.
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I never meant fragmentation. I meant somalis solving the somali problem.
liberation of berber people, you mean from the Arabs that rule the country. ah thats a bit harder. ill stop with my suggestions and just ask questions i guess.
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Stick, I agree that Ethios will vacate Mog, but blend into the southern landscape. Robow has no clue of the political assassinations due to his clearance level. There are multiple cells in operations- interdependent from one anther- at least of our Good Doc can attest to that. The common denominator in this operation is the warning system in from of a letter or a phone call, which is the trademark of the organization.
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The Dr.
Thanks for the update. I never believed Ethos are leaving the country. All news sources are saying they vacated their bases, no one seems to know where they went!!
From Mogadishu to Afgoi is that acceptable? How about Baidoa Bardere? Luuq?...perhaps Janaqow can answer!
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Qaarbaa aaminsan in Alshebab ay wadanka Amxara ka saareen/thats caqli Mooryaan. Mooryaan wax kale ma suubin waxay suubiyeen inay masuul ka ahaayen in caruur iyo haween ku dhintaan mogadiscio, yaa been loo sheegaya xataa inakii????. amxaaro waxay idinka tagtey markii dadkii idin xukumi jirey ay idinka tageen,TAA OGAADA.
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Sorry Shanta and Gacalka
I lost power that is why i left abruptly. Perhaps Putin's hand is stretched all the way to So Cal!1
Shanta,
The boys are not 100% clean. But, we are not sure they are responsible for the senseless targeted assassination in Somalia. Roobow denied and said, "where we are in charge, people are not killed" So, how do we know they are to blame? In Somalia you never know who you are dealing with!
We have been watching Somali affairs for the last 20+ years, i come back to this, at least people live where these boys are in charge, what is the alternative? Any other feasible choice where we stand? .......
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This forum, is were Somalis exchange thier ideas as far as I know,ilka case(Iidoor) don't you guys have some where to socialize? if I may ask?. miyaadan ka baxin Somalinimada.?
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Kayse (SENSE LESS), mafrish kii qaatkaa xiran? Mataga naga duw dee!
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Finally we seen the face of the real man (Gabre) who slapped Abdullahi Yusuf and was going to kill him before Mohamed dheere spoiled the party as a result now they going to take Mohamed Dheere with them.
Also another funny pictures is South Somalis collecting boots that are more than 2 years old left behind by the Ethiopians hahahahaha :)
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Stick, Since 1995, this group has been involved in eliminating prominent Somalis. If you look into the HOL’s front page under Tacsi, you will see their recent works. Then how is a group determined to create a new Somali at any cost be different than the previous groups?
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Stick, At least we can agree that the existence and inception of the warlords were facilitated by our clan system- to protect in the absence of centralized government. The boys are being utilized by another group who’s in search of power exclusively equals to the warlord’s ambitions. If one must travel the same road as the warlords, then would that be an option?
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Shanta & Sticky, good night brothers, I am tired, worked almost too much! Cheers bros!
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Shanta,
No, i never thought. But again, these ASWJ are nothing but clan militia and the right to use the name of these Suufi groups was leased. It that simple. Some of them perhaps are fighting with the clan militia because they want to keep the statue quoi..
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Shanta;
True, the time is different, the people are different and even the enemy is different. And even though we were under colony, we were united as a people, this time we are not. As for this $100, i amnot sure. Who said? prove? Who pays? Everything written about these guys is not true. Trust me, i have my doubts, but hey, what is the alternative?
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Stick, In retrospect, go back 6 months, and tell me if you thought that ASWJ would have been contenders in this never ending Somali Drama?
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Shanta & Sticky lool, I don't care where people are educated, only they can let us take a step forward and put focus on our motherslands development.
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Gacalka Those primitive warlords, nothing was safe with them, no country, no people, no intellectuals. At least, the new as you guys call them"Diinlords" everything is save, everything except perhaps some "freedom of choice" if we had to choose, and we have to, what would you?
The answer to your next question is; Yes this is the only choices we have now, let's wait the other choices in a perfect world or perhaps next life!!
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Stick, After all, this is their career and not just a job. I don’t remember if SYL members were paid money to join the liberation movement? The boys are paid $100 per month, where as majority of our people’s income is equals to half a Dollar per day.
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Gacalka
One does not read Western papers opinion pages does not mean he is fool, it does not mean he is uneducated, it does not mean he is backward. All it means is, he subscribes different thinking, and that should be acceptable in a real world don't you think?
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Sticky, I agree that these wilds are like multi-armed cuttle fish, sadly enough!
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Shanta
They are willing to compromise with the right people.
They said, No Ethos, not TFG charter, and let's implement the Sharia? what part don't you agree?
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Gacalka
Are you calling them primitive because of their stand? What do you call them those who had the country and the people hostage for the last 20+ years?
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Gacaliye, I agree. But sometimes one has to realize the truth- that you can't always get what you want, unless you are willing to compromise for it.
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Shanta lool, you mean, "give a fo*l rope enough and he will han*himself"? KKKKKK!
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Shanta
Don't count the boys out, not so fast! Let's see what Madoobe, Sherrif, Nur Cade are up to and then, we will talk about if Robow and Co were "shuux buu ahaayo shalayba qaad"
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Shanta, all these primitives are only making our people's misery more & more unbearable, don't you think so bro?
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Gacaliye, We have learned from the masters! Robow has fulfilled his mission: destroy Al-Haram within.
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Shanta lool, you mean all his mur*erous efforts are hal bacad lugu lisay?
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Moorish, you wrote, "somaliland could be a viable option in helping the south".
Why don't you lobby for the unification and liberation of your Berber people shared like a bit of cake among north African hyena states instead of wasting your energy on Somali fragmention? KKKKKKK You never this proverb: "Charity begins at home"?
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Gacaliye, Robow's day are now numbered. He will soon be forced out- his strategy in G/ceel was a disastrous. Midland Modifico is applicable in his case.
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Moorish, You are right, I don't argue with them. People who continuously lament of how bad they were treated by the union. When in fact majority of us believe that the union neglected us at the expense of spoiling our dear brothers. They were giving unbelievable rates for mortgages, which they were able to build huge villas, their military officers promoted regardless of seniority. Their main issue seems to be administrative problems or local ordinances- they couldn't obtain passports or build 3 floor buildings in Hargiesa.
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Waa wareey, KKKKK war mashaan waa lugu hoobtay intaan shaqaynayey KKKKKKK!
Doc, sheydans Indha-Cadde, Abu Mansuur and Cisse Cadow were reported to need some human butcher's tools, such as axes, more effective bilaawes. when will these tools be available in your new butcher's shop? Are you going to employ any of our traditionally fine smiths or only your clansmen are allowed to work there? KKKKKKKK!
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ah so Cara lives in Kiev, Ukraine?
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I see, the former british colony is theirs lol
A lobbyist maybe, but i would not want to argue for a living.
Those abosolete tanks are the same russian tanks the Ethiopians used to invade somalia.
I guess the gun is more of a ruler instead.
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Cara, No spare parts from Kiev? Good nite.
Hymo, You got money- America is got solutions! Think Tank, lobbyist and many experts to quench your desires.
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Moorish, I knew you could be a secessionist in disguise or a foriegn lobbyist. Anyhow, the tanks you are talking about, are the ones that the National Armies left behind, most of them are absolute. Good nite.
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Moorish, They can go, as long as they are willing to take their original region which is size of Rode Island.
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peace peace
no no im not trying to be rude.
somaliland could be a viable option in helping the south
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Here comes our Berber friend who knows, Somalia's affairs more than Somalis.
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Cara somaliland has a powerful army. They have tanks and other heavy weapons though as they have said before they do not wish to reunite with the rest of somalia
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thats strange i only posted my comments one time.
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Shanta, still that de'meanor has not changed with our bro/sis of the NW,Somalia. Lobbyist after lobbyist, in strange way it feels like the status quo of Mogadishu(ch'aos) and the unsuccesful secessionist plan of the North seems stagnanly interconnected.
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lol thats only about a month after independence from Italy and Britain.
but yes it must have been quite a rude awakening. lol
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lol thats only about a month after independence from Italy and Britain.
but yes it must have been quite a rude awakening. lol
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Shanta, LOOOOOOOOOL ===> "Regardless the tranquility over there, the South still preoccupies much of your time, and as long as the Mogadishu has a heartbeat- the world will ignore you, except some paid lobbyist and that Asian guy Pham something".
You really followed Somaliland's endless pursuit for international recognition and how some lobbyists understood and took advantage of that effort.
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As I recall July 20th, 1960 the parliamentarians from the North found themselves in unexpected role in the Somali parliament. Once the dominant politicians of Hargeisa realized that the Somaliweyn business diminished their grandeur stature of self obsessed clan nobility from the Somali nomads, and reduced their prestige to the level of a commoner- that must have been Rude Awakening!
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is anyone here a member of any of the groups?
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Howle, We do recognize our dysfunctional existence- none of us ever deny that, but do you recognize the endless futility of searching for nationhood? Regardless the tranquility over there, the South still preoccupies much of your time, and as long as the Mogadishu has a heartbeat- the world will ignore you, except some paid lobbyist and that Asian guy Pham something.
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Ethiopian Government have successfully reached its goals. They have divided my wild people into three different categories: 1) Ahlusunna waljamaca known XER ama Walamo 2)Islamic Courts Known Clan Sharia Courts 3) Young Muslim wants their country bcome an Islamic State
The rest are sparolgy groups and supporters. Do not blame anybody else shame on us. Look I don't wanna use a bad words What are these people mean as human being Period. You guys this is your country,no one else wants to live except you, what is your point,i see everyday ugly faces looking for power and blood and you guys are supporters. I am not going listen your b/sh every year ,this country is over for good and brokers are selling now but nobody knows the price or tag on it.
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Lamadage
Mowlaca Sheikh Cabdulahi Baardheere, lol!!! war Abdullahi yusuf maa igu qaladay, walee ninkaas madaxuu ka ahysta adad badan oo aad ku jirto. Waxaan ku weydiiayay kaalay maxaad adiga iyo Aisha ugu soo celcilisaan wax dadku og yihiin, ma gudbayaal badan baad wax bari jirteen i.e. alshabab.
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Doctor Lamadage
Do you think it is too early yet to tell if the ASWJ will gain more ground from al shabab?
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xaajiyo Araweelo mar dambe ha i soo celin.....kkkkkkkkkk
Tixda gabayga carabiga macnaheedu waxaa weeye.......oo aan jawaab toos ah oga dhigay hadalkaadi ahaa gumac mooye wax kale oo idin joojinayaa ma jiro....
Fa innaka law sa'alta baqaa'a yowmin calal ajal alladii laka lan tudhaacii
Macnaha waxaa weeye
Haddaad waydiisato maalin kale inaad sii joogto oo lagaa baajiyo ajalkaada lagaa yeeli maayo
NB....waxaa u qabay inaad ka mid ahayn Xerti Cabdullahi Baardheere oo xooga ka soo baratey ama Middle east ku noolaani jirey intaadaan Mareykanka aad iman.
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Lamadage, good nite and have a drink on me for your celebration.
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axsaabta addios amigoos.....waan ka baxay.
shanta iyo Araweelo sii ruuga Jaalle Lamadage.....kkkkkkkkkkk
salam
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Ninfiican Lol!!!
Gabre is not war criminal, he was just defending his barako, temporary home. Ask Lamadage whose fault is the massacre, both sides.
Lamadage gediga wadaay..carabi ma aqaani xoogaa aan ku kaftamo maahee. ii Jilci.
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Shanta That would be poetic justice, MP Doc living in your home and enjoying Baidoa hospitality. Otherwise, that and his project with J people don't materialize, he knows my basement is available without charge.
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Ninfican, We need to be realistic and stop fooling ourselves- no one will ever pay all the atrocities committed in Somalia. Even when the vanglorious ICU cornered the nororious Mog warlords- they were given an escape route, only to come back 6 months later in the Ethios tanks- I guess its in our nature not settle scores at the right moment.
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Wasalamu cala manibatcal Hudaa.
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Shanta I want to sign off. It is here 2;30 AM Mogadishu local time. come early next time.
For Araweelo,
I agree with you nothing will stop us until we achieve Somalia free from Abyssinia under Islamic rule. If we die on such course don't cry for us because we will never miss you. We already have chosen our mission....but the destiny is in the hand of Allah. You don't know how we are determine more than ever until we see a Somali mothers, children, elders and our helpless people get the justice, real development, dignity and Islamic good governance they deserve.
Haddaad carabiga taqaanno waxaan ku dhilhi lahaa gabaygii ahaa
Fa innaka law sa'alta baqaa'a yowmin calal ajal alladii laka lan tudhaacii
Bal aan Sayidka soo qaato
Nin walba wuxuu galabsadaa, loo gorgoriyaaye Kasabkaagu waa naaar ilaah, kugu gufeeyaaye Billaabaan ilaah gaabiyow, kugu galaal xooray
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There are countless progressive attorneys the world over who would love to persue a case against this war criminal if we only had the patriotism to bring their attention to. I am ready to do my part in contributing to such an effort. Do we have anyone willing to take the lead?
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Allah yalcanak yaa kalb Gebre, Somalis especially in the west should do everything in their power to have this criminal brought to justice.
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Cara, You will soon see our Good Doc joining the 550 Somali MP's, and I promise to turn the keys my stupendous villa in Baidoa, over looking Isha Baidao. Free for the first three months, until he receives his first UN paycheck.
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Caraweelos,i think you like Ethiopians why don't you get Gabre and his ugly face
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Lamadage, Qado shara kadib.. Nuur Cadde medaglie uu u qaybiyay, aad buuna ugu mahad celiyay Itoobiyanka inay hawhsoodii ay guteen. Haddana asaga 550 muqawamada iyo TFG in uu madax u noqdo raba, armu Sheikh Sharrif kuu roon yahay. Kan waa bogga jecli beerka jecli.
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The J people "don't count in our world" from now on- we have got the ex-warlords, clan militias and ASWJ seeking to destroy Al-Haram...Zenawi has many hands and fingers!
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Lamadage
There will be no alshabab who will sit in Madaxtooyo. The elimination game had began and I know your J group, death is the only thing that will stop them.
Shanta, I am still traumatized.
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Doc, Walalaheena sugotiheynaa! Xaa ku dhace aadi?
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Cara, Those are gruesome pictures, indeed Somalia life has no value at all.
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Araweelo
Wuxuu ka dhacay saldhiga xabashida X Madaxtooyada Soomaaliyeed. I want to vomit
Adduunyo xaalkaa ba'
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Caraweelos, Xafladda waxay ka dhacday guriga Nuur Cadde,sida ay noo soo gudbiyeen saraakiisha Homelandku.
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Al-xamdulillah aladii sadaqa wacdah
Wa a cazah Jundah
Wa hazamal axzaabu waxdah.
Aanu dabaal dagno walaase axmaaro looga hari maayo dhibkii iyo gumaadkii ay ka gaysatay somalia labadii sano ee lasoo dhaafay.
hagaadho hagaadhee waatii laga aaraa Insha-Allah.
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Stick
On the ground ...very volatile …..wallaahul mustacaam. I believe if Sharif didn’t stab us behind, today Islamist will be victorious in Mogadishu. Aside from past grievances I can tell you this: If Sharif group work with J people and stop balkanization of Somali Islamist things will be reasonable. If not .......then don't blame alshabab or other J group. But unity mood is getting momentum among all Somali Islamist with different degree of euphoria. Make no mistake there is huge skeptical about withdrawal claim. It look like shifting game.
Salam...............to all of you
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Al-xamdulillah aladii sadaqa wacdah
Wa a cazah Jundah
Wa hazamal axzaabu waxdah.
Aanu dabaal dagno walaase axmaaro looga hari maayo dhibkii iyo gumaadkii ay ka gaysatay somalia labadii sano ee lasoo dhaafay.
hagaadho hagaadhee waatii laga aaraa Insha-Allah.
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MO5
Xaflada Ethiopianka lagu sagootinaayo ma guriga Nuur cadde ka dhacday sida sawirka hoose ku ka muuqata mise, Madaxtooyada?.
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Best Comment Of The Day: By; Mahare:
" This is Mugadisho and when ever I think of it, there is this(Saado) song that comes to mind.
Aan wada tashano, wada tashan meeyno. Aan kala tashano, Kala tashan meeyno. Aan kuu taliyo, ii talin meeysid. Adigu ii tali walaal, kuu talin maayo. Hadaba aan kala tagnoo, kala tagi meeynee."
Congrat Mahare.
You Are The Commentator Of the Day. And you won a prize, (a p'iece of land in Warshada Baastada next to Lamadage's Tabakaayo).And you will get it as soon as Indhocade restores the order in the area current under Dr's occupation.
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Nomadka, Lol!!! ma Gabre baan kala garaneynaa I think Hiirale's ASWJ will be busy in the Jubba's. The middle region, Guriceel ASWJ had eliminated alshabab. Here are some pictures, but carefull:-
http://www.waagacusub.com/13.01.09%209sawiro.htm
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Nomadka1
I was about to leave, but you are keeping me in the seat.
Well, i don't want to sound partisan but is Hiiraale member of our ASWJ? LOL
I heard he was arrested is that true? Ethos leaving from Mogadishu means he would get more help from them and the bloodshed shifted from Mogadishu to Jubba, Bay and Galguduud. We will see. The end game for Ethos is , more *** Land. Jubbaland, BanadirLand, BayLand, Midland..etc that is their agenda and it seems it may work...and they have good reason to implement that system just look PL and SL and how comfortable Ethos are in those areas..
Talk to you later...Tii Alley tegi
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Nomadka1
Good to see you again. Long time no see, different time zone and we rarely meet here...I hope things are fine where you are...
Have a good day/night to all
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Stick I have some interesting inside info for you.
Hiiraale's ASWJ will replace the Ethiopians. lol
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Nomadka1
Yes we have to keep track of who did what in Somalia we cannot just forgive and forget when it comes to the enemy. That guy should never come to a place where the rule of law is respected. We should try to make him pay of what he has done to us.
Lamadage
What is the situation on the ground? What do we expect from this new development? More chaos or things look so far so good?
Cheers all
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Stick Wellcome brother. Long time, no see.
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I think this is even better
http://hiiraan.com/news/2008/Jun/wararka_maanta7-3831.htm
Too many Gabres in Ethos
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The other one Gabre Haile. lool Waxay nabadeen waxay na bareen ka sii daran.
Maantana waxay naga maraysaa war saan uma ekayn ....
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Cara
Yes he was little older more light skinned. More sinister looking as well, here is the link
http://www.meskerem.net/mafia.8.jpg
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In xaflad qabsado oo la farxo waa loo baahan yahay. Hase ahaatee Faannoole fari kama qodna. Waxaa laga kiciyay (inaan dhoho way ka bexeen waxaa igala saxsan laga xoreeyay) Xayle Bariise iyo meelo kale oo u dhow-dhow. Dal dhererkiisu uu kabadan yahay kumanaan kiilometer oo isku wareeg ah ayaa larabaa in laga xoreeyo injireeyda Tigreega.
Intaas kadib, waxaan farxad ahayn ee naxdin ah, in kadib qabsashadii Soomaliya, qubiddii dhiigga daahirka ah ee Muslimiinta Soomalida ah iyo bannaysashadii maxaarimta ummadda kadib in maanta rag sheeganaya mas’uuliyad ay ugu dabbaal dagayaan bixitaanka Tigreega guriga Nuur-Cadde (ALLAH nuur ma siiyee). Dabbaal deggan maxaa ka dhalanaya;
1. In ay xalaal ahayd inay Tigreegu soo galaan Soomaliya. 2. Inuu hadur yahay dhiiggii ay qubeen ee ummaddu, balse ay sax ahayd in la daadsho. 3. In aysan noo banaanayn inaan dhahno Tigreegu ama dabadhilifkoodii (labels, illeen waayo madaxweyne, wasiirkoowad, wasiirro, iyo baarlamaan ma jirinine) danbibuu galay haddaanaan inkirin xafladda maanta. Waa hubaa ragga leh; Abu-Zubayr, Omar Iman, Mahdi, Mujaahidiinta, iyo shacabka wanaagsan sidaydda oo kale inay inkirayaan arrintaan gurracan.
Waxaan ALLAAH uga hoos galayaa inay nin ama qolo ama qabyaalad igu xambaarayso inaan saas dhoho
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Cara
Subcis??, let her hide behind the vail of Islam. They cling to religion and guns when things get though. Not that great religion of Allah, needs personal agenda and distortion. I wonder who next on the Gal list, after the Ethiopians leave.
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Stick you are right,
I think the old Gabre was transfered back to Addis and left Mogadishu, he looked very different than this Gabre. Both men I am sure they got enough corruption money in their pockets.
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Ttis is not the infamous Gabre! That guy is on vacation to unknown destination with blood money!!
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moorish
Wellcome brother. Ninka na dhacay ma adigaa?
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Lamadage su'aalaha adag miyaa ku dhibaaya oo ku saabsan Alharam. Xashaa lilaah anag kama aan imaan gowracada martiooda dila saad la socotis, basement kayga wuu kuu dhamaa dhwaaca horta leh oo kaa soo gaari doono markay alharam dhegeha is wada qabsadaan, still the offer is open for you.
Aisha, markaad yarayd subcis ma soo marin miyaa, oo hadda ayaad ka gaarsiine. Subciska jooji wax yar, si caadi ah dooda u soo dhex gal. Lamadage waydii asagaa laacib ku ahaa subciska, haddana waa sida saaniga u doodaye siday rabto distorted ha u ahaate. Ogowna Islamka cidna kama xigtaan adiga iyo Alharam.
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Sister Asha
Araweelo has isku daalin ...markay Islaamiyiinta qabsadaan dalka waxaad arki doontaa iyada oo calanka u sidda. Waxay aaminsan tahay man tazawa ummi fahuwa cammi..(whoever marry my mom is my uncle). Marka ha isku daalin. Waxay deggan tahay sidaan u maleynayo Cedar building.....lol BTW Araweelo.....I'm laughing on your hysteric comments........Maanta seey wax kaa yihiin. Sunit Ahmara lover miyaa kugu soo laba kaclaysay. halkaas ka wad....maanta malaha cool aid badan baad cabtay. Malaha haddaad basementigaaga iga kirayn lahayd xaaskaad iga gowrici lahayd...lol
Diinow.....we fought for the sake of you guys who are stranded in west. I can't imagine the financial meltdown and homeland security harrasment you are all going thru.
Shanta......did you said I got assistant? lol. Do u think Lamadage need assistance....don't down grade me like Poors and Standard ruin American small companies. BTW, thanks for your sympethic remarks last nite. Me too I know foe worth my serious comment than ciyaal fay players....lol
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Caraweelos,Sis i think you will never change because you head the people who fallow Islam and i didn't get why? Why you head Islamic Low
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Caro
Maad maqashay naagta Habargidir oo BBC Somaliga ka qaylinaysaa, ka dib markay Xamar ka maqaneyd laba sano kuna farxaysa Itoobiyanka xeryaha ka baxay.
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Lamadage All the single mothers that you brought to Lido, alshabab avoided them and they opted out for married women, that is Haraam. Some men had fled with their woman, not because of the mortars, but the alshabab ho'oligans who were preying on them.
Aisha Waaxid mooryaan never changes, even if he/she reads verses of the Qur'an that is not coming from the heart.
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Caraweelos,Sis Isalm provides forgiveness provided that people repent from their previous misdeeds fro all the people evan Abdillahi
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Araweelo
Huunno sheekada beenta yaa sheekh kuugu ah. Markaan damcay inaan ku tusaaleeyo waadigan geedka dheer sii koriye. Jaalleey runta u soo noqo....haddii kale enjoy your little imaginative world. Naagaa xoog lagu guursade kulahaa. Single motherkii iy gabdhihii baa guur loo la'yahay markaasay sheeka baraleey la imaahee halkaan.
For MO5.....OK. don't buy for us....just contribute secrectly......OK......kkkkkkkkkkkkk
Ninkii xaqa u saahida haddii, saa'il lagu maagi Weliyada Islaamka leh hadii suufka laga diiran Haddii aaan safiih nimaan ahayn, laga saariigaynin
malaa saacaddii baa dhawoo, suurkii la afuufye
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Aisha no doubt sister, but you haven't answered my question about Indhacade and his works for your group.
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Caraweelos,Sis Verilly all praise and thanks is due to Allah, the Lord of mankind, the jinn and all that exists. I bear witness that there is nothing worthy of worship except Allah, without any partner nor associate and I bear witness that Muhammad Salallahu Alayhi Wasallam is His servant and His final messenger. May Allah’s peace and blessings be upon him, his family, his companions, and those who follow him in righteousness until the Day of Judgment. Ameen.Sis that is what satisfies me sisther ok
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Dhagdheer dhimatoo dhulkii waa nabad. Ethiopia is leaving with a big egg on its face , has lost countless of its young men for nothing except that Meles is stil in power at the cost of their death and the death of thousands of innocent Somali civilians and it failed on its ill-fated mission PLUNDER. However , Somalis should not think of the past, it was horrible, the only think that matters now is the ever lasting present, let us focus on those sticking issues and let us work for the unity and the existance of this nation. I don't care if this dude looks like his idol Haile salase or Mingestu for that matter, he is forced to leave with his filthy troops and that is what matters.
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Diinow for president, I am sure you would have been better than those who are in the ground.
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saltue all the brave men and women who contributed, in any way, to the end of Amharo occupation including Dr. Lamadage who fought really hard behind a PC screen. BTW, I admire the DOC's slogan: with that clarity our souls survive. Although at times it seems as: With that confution the conflict continues!!!! Indeed, I am very happy and hopefull but I will not celebrate untill I see "Dowlad Islaami ah" oo "caddaalad ah" in my homeland.
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Carraweelos,waad iga yaabisay. Aad baad wax badan u ogtahay. Xataa dadku meelaha ay kala degaan.
Laakiin Cusmaanka ka reeb.Unless he is Bidde!! lool
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Aisha iyaah!!! Sharia law delivered by deliquente Indhacade, is that what satisfies you?.
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M05 and Shanta Gabre could look like a Gaaljecel from Hiiraan, Gare from Ceelwaaq or Osman Mohmud from Bosaso. He has avarage East African face.
Lamadage, Lol!! How can you use Takfiir a muslim woman married to muslim man. Is there shortage of woman in Somalia, when you taking a married woman. Last I knew, numericaly women were the double of the men in Somalia. Haddana maxaa ilaa imaane sidii sheekada ii qabuuraha la jajibeyey, waayo dhulka loo baahday.
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hymohamed,borther in Islam we have to make alth of Alhamdulillah, And Verily, the victory of Allah is near.May Allah bless whoever follows the Sharia Law and grant these people success all the time,And Allah said They want to extinguish the light of Allah with their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, although the disbelievers dislike it
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Aisha (naban),
I saw the muxlim page,and you look great maansha allah,but i didnt see ciyaalkii iyo odaygii.
By the way siduu odaygaaga,oo xagjir ah u oggolaaday inaad cyper friends yeelatid?
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Ciyaal fay cali === Al-shabaab. loool.
Bettery gii uun baa ka maqan!!looooooool
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Dr. electronic, All Ciyaal Fay Calis are wealthy today,most of them are older and own the Bakaaraha.
I will not supply you because you will use it against me.
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Sister Aisha
Noo dhaaf jaallayaalkan xayraansan inagaa ku filane. Waa qowm waashay oo mar dhow ka soo jeesan doona Manacoopiyada Maaya hospital. Araweelo......ma foga. Is yeelyeelkeeda waxaa ka keenaya cabsi keliya. I think so....LOL
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MO5 and Aaisha1, Please leave Somali clans out. We all look alike as Somalis.
Aisha1, I agreed with you no dabadhilif in Somalia but Islam also provides forgiveness provided that people repent from their previous misdeeds. We should enjoy the much earned victory and thank Allah. The rest of the folks grilling you is just a story!!!!!
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I think you were ciyaal fay cali that I was told once wreak havoc some parts of Mogadishu. Bombs?!!kkkk. If we didn't make it do you want to supply us from MN?....kkkkkkkkkkk. Am afraid your masters will get you.........bal halkaa hanoo joogto.
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lamadage,
I heard r'umors that you o'ccupied a p'iece of land v'accated by the Ethios,and you are g'uarding it with your Dabajeex and Qumbulatul sagheera.
Are you p'lanning to b'uild a Tabakaayo there to s'ell your e'lectronic p'roducts?
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Araweelo,
For God sake stop saying they marry married women after doing takfiir. U r going down to the abyss. You should be living with the mentality of your uncle Siyad Barre and his fiqi buraale Maxamed Guuleed. How long you want to buy this kind of cheap shots. You should be desperate.
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Hello ,Great Dr. The Electricia. Did you bury your uncle?
Oh sorry and condolence.
But Please stop your Bomb making job,otherwise your victims will increase and you will lose many more.
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aisha i was defending our somali girls but if you are ok with that every month new black american guy its ok with me i have no problem.
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Shanta,brother ha i danbajiin ok
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It was a sad day for most of Somali people by giving some of weak iman strong world desire to Abyssinian invaders rare heroes’ farewell. Thank Allah real Somali Islamist didn't participate this s*ck fa*ce. Imagine the killing machine for the last two years in Mogadishu and other cities to be treated like saviors!!. Do you think such people had sanity or espouse the dignity and the interest of this broken nation? I don't blame Amhara lover Nuur Cadde and others whom shi* like kids for their nonsense speech but Sharif group. The latter wallahi broken my heart when they thanked to Abyssinians while they were still killing our people, destroying Somali financial line and ra*ing count less Somali girls groaning with shame.
If this withdrawal becomes reality -in which I doubt- the virtue and thank of this goes to Allah alone then al-Mujaahiddeen who made Somalia the graveyard of Abyssinia dreams.
BTW, Somali Islamist has shown rare unity in two important places Abyssinians had withdrawn. FYI, Abyssinians suffered in big way in warshadda Baastada and Xayle Bariise neighborhood. I didn’t like Indhacadde to appear in the midst of Somali Islamist. Alshabab stayed altogether away from this takeover but hope they will join their brothers after cleaning the SAF al-Islaami from hypocrite and re*less personalities.
Finally, if war of liberation is over…..then Somali Islamist will form the Islamic government. No halfway solution with those criminals who let down this nation for 18 years. Thank Allah some of our efforts did beart fruit when all Somalis defied the claim of eliminating each other after orchestrated withdrawal. Despite that, I have concern
Khalli masiiratu taxriir tastamiiru xataa tuxarara bilaadu Soomaal taxta raayatal Islaam
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MO5,look may be you are looking fro a man,but me Iam a mam of 2 if you like to see came you can came May Muslamspace and look Aaisha101 you will see Umu Ibaraheem
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He looks like Robow's cousin Mamow of Leysan Clan!
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Aisha, LOL Indeed you are becoming Doc's assistant!
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MO5,Gabre looks like an majerateen nor Abgal,Look at his ugly face we all see he is like old man Cabdillahi or Cadee Moose
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Aisha, Dear my beloved sister, you can't despise Kuffars since you live amongst them!
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Shanta,brother it is good to see today,and yes their is any plans because not more Dabadhiliif in samalia SOON AL SHABAAB WILL ELIMINAT
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MO5, No! I will never do such thing! Otherwise I would have asked Cara out long time ago.
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Gabre looks like an Abgal or Masaai elder.
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Shanta,Shukaansi maa u jeedaa? lool
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Aisha, Where do you live sister?
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Guys,save his photo for future references and prosecution.
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camalow,You said they converted to Islam sow what they are our brother in Islam you said you got so mad because they get somali girl,you look like you head the Muslims more then we head the Kufaar
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Now is the time to support peace and stop the fighting. Come to your senses, put aside your petty differences and think of the future. We need and want peace NOW
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Shanta, Aisha & co. do not accept defeat. When Ethiopia is withdrawing, they will come to you and say in your face(we defeated them). Subhana alaah the game of defeat and shame are what they have in store for Somalis in Central and Southern Somalia for 18 years. Losers.
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Gabre goes home with millions in his account, thanks to the moneylords of Bakarah!
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Aisha, What makes you say Carawelo will cry very soon? Are there any plans in the pipes for the rest of us?
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Carraweelo this mosque i go for prayers there two black americans who converted to islam every month they get a new somali girl I got so mad how these wahabis destroying the future of our somali girls.
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Nomadka, Once in a while a drifter wiil appear. Watch out!!.
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Camalow you are indeed. Thanks bro
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Camalow, You knew that they don't do nikaxa ceremony, Walaahi I heard they do run away with married woman, saying she was married with Gaal and wasn't legit. Can you imagine that kind of twisted mentality.
Nomadka tubaakada aan kuu salaxaayey.
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Cara loooooooooool
War miskiinka martida inoo ah ma in anigiyo galacka ku goobanaad rabtaa? lol
I hope you know who i am talking about? I am suspicious though!!! Thanks for the tip.
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nomadic i thought im a respectful person thnx for reminding me that.
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Camalow Please respect the girls.
Thanks
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AISHA WHICH ONE YOU ARE WAITING FOR I HEARD WAHABIS MARRY FOR FREE ARE YOU FOR DAAHIR AWEYS,ROOBOOW OR INDHACADDE.
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Cara I think that is an exageration, he cant afford either. Havana cigars cost more than 50 dollars each. Unless he is recycling like it Clinton. lol
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the alharam refugees had better stay under trees because other round of power struggle between alharam wings will star in Mogadishu once again...this time they have no justification to fight against the Ethiopians ...but massacre themselves.
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Nomadka I heard he smokes cuban cigar and he drinks whisky. I don't know about the tobaco business.
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Caraweelo,your brothers are going home don't cry naw because you will cry more soon
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Gabre inuu fool xun yahay laiskuma haysto laakiin fool xumada wajigiisa saaran waxaa kasii daran falalka xuxun uu kula kacay masaakiinta. Inuu hilib ceeriin daaq yahay waa iska muu qataa asaga iyo suniyihiisa jareertaa.
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Caraweelo who was talking adout date
abaayo is deji waad i dhali kartaaye loooooool
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War ileen Gabraha na wareershay waaba tubaako cun.
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Xiis, all of them combined, except Aideed Junior..who is not that bad looking and he may beat Gabre. But Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. Sorry, Sollentuna I don't pick dates on internet.
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Taatiikhduu Geli doonaa Genkii Ethipainka ahaa ee Muqdisho ka taliyay.
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he is better looking Gen Caydiid
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Caraweelo
Aniga isoo fiiri
labadoodba anaa ka qurxan
and this is my email
Soc@sollentuna.se
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Wadajir, Lol!!! Gabre wax kale u hayso laakiin foolxumo kuma gooban been waa xaaraane, aniga iyo adiga ma xarash iyo madax ma cayarnaa inuu ka qurxoon yahay Indhacade iyo in kale.
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we dont need wahabis in our country i dont want to wear a night gown and short and say to the ppl you are chosen ones from god like the jews are not you like jews?and since when god said to you that you are a chosen one is mooryaan gods chosen ppl and if the sufism are quraafaat do you know who invented the wahabism?
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THANK YOU GABRE FOR ELIMINATING THE CHILDREN OF WORLORDS AKA ALSHABAAB ALXAARAAM THNK YOU FOR YOUR SACRIFICE WE REALLY APPRECIATE INSTEAD OF ME SUPPORTING PPL THAT DONT KNOW IF IM EXIST OR NOT I SHOULD SUPPORT MY BROTHERS ETHIOPIA THNX AGAIN.
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This looks like a guy who didn't sleep for a long time. Thanks to al-shabaab he is turning tail and running. Those against al-shabaab should go with him to ethiopia since they won't be able to pursue no more religious QURAAFAAT anymore.
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Maanlaawe Gabre maxaa fool xumo kugoobatay. Look at his ugly face, he is trying to smile after massacring all those innocent people for all those years. I know God will call him and all the others who abused the innocent people to justice one day.
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Mr. Gabre is leaving Mogadishu, because there’s no more dhafoorqiiq to slap around.
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