i have seen many Somali Muslims on the site
www.jorgesgang.com .i paid for a 3 day trial
with this group,and i could not believe what i saw.
you never know what someone elese is doing under cover.
how could thay talk people into doing this.
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I don't think we need to respond to GAYS since we don't share the same values and culture. Allah created men & women for each other & not the dirty vice versa. Many non-believers such as Christians and Jews believe it is a sin to be a GAY where as VERY few IGNORAN*T SOMALIS THINK IT IS OKAY.
HOL WHO MOST OF US THOUGHT WERE EDUCATED ARE FOR THE WRONG REASONS [PROMOTING THIS EVIL*].
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Poem
We are proud gay brothers and sisters. We know religion and we are tolerant.
We are thick skinned and keep harm at bay.
We are bringing back up our name that you have attacked and dragged in the mud.
We are speaking for a people that you have oppressed.
We will claim our rights through debate and knowledge.
Those who welcome and want to debate with us, we will welcome them.
And those who fear us, we will make them jump further.......
I conclude with these words: a GAY is a GAY.
This is a big name of great value.
It is for he who is your brother and shares your name, so give him his due.
Throughout the world, we come in white, black and green.
Our numbers approximate a billion.
Our struggle is greater than ever and in parts of the world, we come first in the constitution.
Oscar Wilde has lit the way for us and we are far from taboo.
Somalis, do not even try anything, as you will fall behind the rest of the word.
I deliver my message with welcoming words and a healthy debate.
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UUUUUUUUUUUFFF ! Alla tolbeelayeey, war waxa maxaa af ingriiska ugu soo qorteen caalamka ina maqlaayee ...
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Madaxeey, are you telling me that there was no gays in Somalia and this is new phenomena found in the western culture. I haven't forced you to adapt any culture, it is up to you how you want to conduct your life be gay or straight.
In terms Marxuumada siinka dheer lagu dilay, maxaa siinka loogu sugay, laakin aan loogu dilin gurigeeda ama xafiiskeeda ayadoo ka soo baxeysa, sniperka itoobiyanka ah ama dowlada maxuu ula sugaayo intaas asagoo Xamar ku qaarajin kara. Waad ogtahay nimankii caruuraha iyo islaamah hoos harsada inay yihiin kuwa dilay, intay quudinaysay isla ayaga.
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Aarrawelo it is sad that you have to speculate who killed Madina. But in reality we know the TFG and the Ethiopian army is the obstacle for the distribution of aid to the misplaced civilians. We also know who the snipers are. If you have to speculate about Madina’s death back it up with concrete facts not fiction. No need for name calling attack the issue not my upbringing. Whether you like or dislike gays “tas waa mid adiga ku taal” but don’t try to force us this adapted western culture of yours. Madina (Alaha u naxariste) was a true feminist; even she would have said “acudi billahi” if she had heard that there are Somali gay community. You should follow her steps and fight the Ethiopian enemy by any means necessary. I can’t believe anyone with conscious would come to the defense of this totalitarian Ethiopian regime. Word of advice keep your culture and love your people.
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Attention to Somalis:
HOL should never have posted such a disgusted article about homo. I call to all my fellow Somalis to boycot HOL since they make money from the visitors for many of the articles we click they collect money. I know many people who open websites just to make money on advertisement. Even if HOL removes this article today, that shouldn't change our propspective on them since all the damage has been done already. They have successfully promoted this disgusted group whether they making money from this group or whether they don't care or members of the HOL belonging to this group.
The fact that they haven't voiced their opinion in this matter tells me they support this group.. May Allah guide us all to the true path..
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AKH! The article is still there. Who cares what we say? HOL proves typical Somalis with "maxaa ka micnaa" mindset. Watch out for they may put the article in the left/right banners. All Somali Ulimas, please condemn HOL in your Friday Khutbas and warn our community about westernising and eliminating our ISLAMIC values.
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waa wareey waa wareey war MAKHNUUDIINTA meesha maxay HIIRAAN ONLINE ugu soo qoraysaa ma waxay rabtaa in aan joojino soo booqashada website-kan! as far as i can see this hiiraan online was my favouorite, and first website.
please i'm still big fun of hiiraan online just remove "those fags" ar'nt you moslems G(U)YS.
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haha...., "niman nimaka gada" Saaxiib Nuurbiid, ma dheeldheel bay kaa tahay mise waa dhab. War heedhe, nimanka naagaha Candhadooda gada waxaa layiraahdaa PIMP, ee kuwa nimanka dabadooda gada ee aad sheegayso maxaa layiraahdaa?
Anigu waan soo noqnoqon ilaa maalmaha soo socda illaa aan ka xaqiiqsado mabda'a dhabta ah ee HOL. haddii xayaysiintan ay ku sii jirto, heedhe, warka meeshan u doonanayo waan aqaannaa. meesha ay ka keenaan....AP, iwm.
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This is my second time I'm trying to write my opinion and it doesn't show up why I really can not say but I hope this will. First of all let me say to those of you who are demanding this article to be removed should be a shamed for your shamfull suport of what is going on in our homeland Somalia and not demanding it should be stoped and infact some of you gave justification for the senseless killing of inocent women and children and now you are demanding inocent article to be removed because it is worst than taking human life!! It is really upsite-down mentality and I hope you will stop that nonsence! Because your writing convey no intelligible ideas and it is absurd. Some of you claimed talking to a mullah and he said it is a sin to publish such an article...I say that is nonsence because ask him what is he doing in UK why not move to Saudi Arebia where his sick idea would be ok why is he living with a Nation that is ok with Gays ..I suggest you should ask him that question. Finally I like to say this to you all as it was said before that one can have his/her opinion but not his/her fact and the fact is that there are Somali Gays and we as Somalis should welcome this fact and let them live in peace. I for one say congrat to all Somali Gays and Lesbian and surely I will teach my children to respect you and I will be leading by example for them by saying I have great respect for those Somalis who are Gays and Lesbians.
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Waxan ma qlay in ay jiraan niman dumarka gada, lakin ma maqal niman nimanka gada! ar tan ani waa ii dhimaneed.
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HOL please, please, Please remove this from the website. Keeping in mind who is your readers/visitors. They are almost all Somalis, and posting this bad news is promoting evil to Somali Community. Free speech controls by morality, personal responsibility and laws. You are violating moral responsibility, personal responsibility and mainly the law of mighty Allah while you post this an acceptable article. Never undermine the core value of your common customers (Somalis, norms and taboos.
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Madaxeey, I don't think you got the true meaning of the word liberal. Another thing, I didn't condemn or condone this article as free thinking person. If I speak from my heart, I have no problem with gays, cause they didn't harm me or anyone I know, but I have a problem narrow minded straight man like you and the ki'llers of innocent Somalis for unholy causes.
Not like you muqaawama apologizer, it is in humane what happen to the civilians in Mogadishu, but you know who had used them as a shield, no one else than the anarchists who hide behind them. If shame is ki'ling anyone, it would be the ones who perpetuate the massacre of innocents and call that a liberation fight. They even brought mayhem where the civilians had fled and killed the hand that was feeding them in the outskirts of Mogadishu, like Marxuumad Madiino General. Shame on you and your ter'ror squad muqaawama.
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Arraweelo I don’t think you understand what it means to be Liberal or conservative in the west. Just because HOL put this gay issue on their site doesn’t mean they are social liberal. Talk about human right when there are innocent civilians being slaughtered cause of their clan and religion. That is a human right violation. When children and women are being killed because they are against the Ethiopian occupiers. That is human rights violations. The demonstration that this people are doing is freedom of speech. Arraweelo don’t dwell on 1990th get over that. Being an advocate for gays doesn’t make you a liberal or conservative. If you have heart you should feel the pain of those Somalis wherever they are in Somalia not some gay men or women who is bar hopping in the west. Shame on you arraweelo.
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I am surprised that HOL had taken the risk of being so “LIBERAL”. This subject concurrently touches freedom of speech and human right’s issue. HOL had challenged the Somali community’s psyche and you can see the over pouring negative reaction in this forum.
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What a disgusting article. Hiraan online has stained its name recognition by posting this unhealthy and disgusting article.
Is the Adminsitrator of Hiraan Online a MEMEBR OF THIS GROUP? Maybe that is why it is on the headlines.
Khaniisyo were numerous in Merka, Barava, Kismayo and Hamar Weyne, but were more like in 10 to 20 in thier numbers inthe nation of Somalia.
This should be removed IMMEDIATELY unless your editor is a member of this "HELLISH GROUP"
NACALAD BAA KU DHACDAY QOOMU LUUDH.marka iska ilooba waxan foosha xun inaad soo qortaan.
SHAME ON HIRAAN ONLINE and ITS EDITORS and MANAGEMENT
Peace and love
Somaali Jaceeyl
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Readers::: I reccently discovered that HOL make money on the article they post. So, I guess we can say they are making money promiting GAYS in the Somali community and that is very bad business.
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how peculiar they post this article to their somali reader?
please remove ti as soon as you come to your sense
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shame on HOL and those claiming that they are gays. i wonder what hiiraan online will bring next. this realy upset me and most of somali community. hiiraan must be ashamed to report things like this. i gues me and peoople like have to start looking for another website to depend on for healthy news.
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I thought Hiiraan is good website,
which represents Somali people and respects the culture, religion and even the viewers,you shouldn't do that,
because we are all responsible for passing selected information through out the community,
not to post what every bad person said on the streets.
Please Please Please we demand to remove this article responsibly.
Thank you.
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I don't understand their(HOL) intentions to post this add! if, most fo their readers do not want to see/read this gay advertisement what is the purpose of putting it up? Today's media does indeed respect their customers/readers/veiwers in order to fulfill demand of their business, but HOL is NOT. look like they care who majority of their readers. Are they targetting cultures that accept gays? well, then that is NOT a Somali culture.
PS: HOL please, respect your readers, publish what they will see beneficial to theri life and values. If you continue this style, then most of your readers will see this as an attack to their culture/religion and will not only discontinue what you publish, but they will rebel.
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This freedom of information, and HOL has very right to post any news fit to inform the inquiry mind. It’s you right not to view it, but to demand to take it off is bit exaggerating. You must except the most controversial themes require the reader to digest and dissect the information regardless how useless it might be, given this group existence is a sin, it doesn’t mean you share the sin. Just the other day an execution of two innocent Somali (singer & composer) took place in Mogadishu, and it didn’t receive much attention or response in condoning the killers. But a gay Somali website reported by HOL is unanimously commented by everyone. We accept killers in our society, but gays? Haram is haram, no choosing please.
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HOL has proven to all Somali readers who they are. They degraded Somali name by publishing this filthy stuff. Allah knows when I saw the title I was nauseted and wanted to vomit. May Allah give you what you deserve. ICU and Alshabaab will deal well any Somali sicko who venture to this sicko path. Mark my word they will never set foot in Somalia. We will hunted them down across western allies. Mark my word
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Facts
No one is going to be a Gay because there is website now.
No can do any thing to them,beceuse they there are in UK.
NO one can remove it in this site, because the fact the site has nothing to do thier action.
Gays were exist in Southern Somali now for ever.
Somali Goverment and soceity are resposible many culture we will face next decaded cause exposing other culture and idoilgiess
what can we do then:
GOD forgives Macsiyo and Haram.
Only GOd guides the humans.
Take care of children both boys and girls
Tell your children what is good and bad
Tell your children what is bad tuoght.
Somalis if we do nt help each other
may will find the help other ways.....
Guys are nt happy their live as i read or listen in media. like any one is doing Haram or Macsiyo they hide
even in US they dont accept them..and BUSH is president of Anti gay..
i do n't see a threat to somali culture...
the threat and distruct of SOmali is QABIIL ....LET face it
ARE WE GOOD PEOPLE AS SOMALIS..
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This is a very sensitive issue and I think that Somali youth should not be exposed to this, in the mist of war and killing we should not be concerned with gay issue and gay advertisement. I believe that this is pure advertisement and that it does not spark debate. I am a proud Hiiraan member and will always be proud to be among Hiiraan site community. As a Muslim I urge you to take this out. Anyone can go to this site you are putting our children, religion and culture at risk. Please think what you are doing is endangering our Islamic fabric of life. I don’t care about their site but it being marketed by hiiraan hurts my stomach.
I strongly urge people not to go to the site and to have a petition that this site is taken out of Hiiraan.
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Pull out this Xaaran Article , SHAME ON YOU IF YOU ARE
MUSLIM , AND YOU PUT THIS filthy garbage on your website.
I will block YOUR WEBSITE FROM VIEWING IN MY HOUSEHOLD
UNITL YOU REMOVE THIS XAARAAAN ADVERTISMENT
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What a sick agenda to publicize and hiiraan shame on you for puting this article up.My suggest to all parties involved in this is repent to ALLAH as he is the most forgiving.
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hiiraan.com! You bring DISGRACE to your valued viewers. What prevents you from publishing those curtoons that said something about our prophet? If your freedom of speech led you to extreme libralism, God bless you, but I am out.
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Hallo Every ONe
Well, well, well.....................
Hiiraan is leading the way, it is doing something revolutionary, something that no other independent Somali website would have ever done and dared. This is a true class and a real professionalism. Without having their opinion about this subject matter, they have have allowed it to be published on their website. And that caries a clear message, one that does not need my explanation.
I personally think, those of you who are treating to abandon this website, should do so, and with immediate departure. Because this website is for the liberals those who understand and value freedom of speech and human rights. We cannot be dictated by doctrines. The world we are in has moved on and made tremendous changes and Somalia was falling behind enormously until the sun-shined from Hiiraan.There is hope and I see the light at the end of the tunnel!!!
A BIG CONGRATULATIONS TO HIIRAAN EDITORS. WELL DONE GUYS!!!!!!
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Hallo Every ONe
Well, well, well.....................
Hiiraan is leading the way, it is doing something revolutionary, something that no other independent Somali website would have ever done and dared. This is a true class and a real professionalism. Without having their opinion about this subject matter, they have have allowed it to be published on their website. And that caries a clear message, one that does not need my explanation.
I personally think, those of you who are treating to abandon this website, should do so, and with immediate departure. Because this website is for the liberals those who understand and value freedom of speech and human rights. We cannot be dictated by doctrines. The world we are in has moved on and made tremendous changes and Somalia was falling behind enormously until the sun-shined from Hiiraan.There is hope and I see the light at the end of the tunnel!!!
A BIG CONGRATULATIONS TO HIIRAAN EDITORS. WELL DONE GUYS!!!!!!
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Please removce this article.
We are Muslim people, hiiraan is a Muslim province(state)
in Somalia, it does not need to pubish these kinds of
disgusting articles which does not concern us.
Let those somalis who choose to be like others in
the west do so in America or Europe.
WE do not welcome them in Somalia.
Somalia = 100% Islam. End of Conversation.
P.S. Reer Hiiraan.com magaca ha iska dilin, ee
waxaan kabixiya website, dadkoo dhan oo Somalida
ayaa meesha war ka aqrista, ilmo, waayeel, ciroole iyo
cirooleey oo dhan ayaa news idinka aqrista, ee
fadlan, ceeb calayk!
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I am confused, is this gay webside or somali media. hiiraan online please respect the somalis and romove this article and apology as soon as possible
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We will see more more gays and christians among somalis in the West. who's responsble this? Most of us are respossible of these because we support and send our money to the warloads. these people flee from somalia because of the money we sending to the warloads and now they turned to the gays.
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Don't you people know that there is a gay community in the TFG. I heard they will pretty soon be advocating for this. You'll see a gay minister in the TFG. This is Adunyo Gadoon that is what this is.
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This is a message for the Somalis to boycott HOL.
Did HOL became Somali GAYS?????????????????????????????
AM OUT AND WILL FIND BETTER SOMALI SITES.
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waxaan fahmi la'ahay waxa ku kalifay hiiraan online, inay iidheh u sameeyaan qoomuluudkii ilahay nacladay? anigu lama yaabani wiilashan jiran oo gaaladu sii walaya, ee waxaan la yaabanahay nimankii hiiran online waalida ku kaliftay fadeexadan? ilbaxnimo maha, oo caqli maha, oo diin maha. wa inay dag dag uga saaran waxan. inteena meeshan timaaadana naga raali galiyaan gafka xadhaafka ah ay maskxadena iyo moralkeena u gaysteen hiiran online.
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Salam to everyone.
I feel overwhelmed with happiness that a well stablished website such as Hiiraan would publish news about, those of us who don't know where to turn to in life.
I feel happy that for once this issue is not brushed under the carpet.
I am somali, I am gay, and I do exist. I care for islam as much as the next somali that sits in a "mafrish" chewing 7 days a week, fantacising about sleeping with a 'blond' or the 'hijaab' wearing neighbour. Whilst being "muslim" is just a name tag to be used when necesary.
Ilaahey aa nabad kabariya. Not you. Salaam claykum.
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Hiiraan what has gotten into ur minds. U guyz shouldn't
hve posted this... I hve taken one step backward in the
faith I had on Hiran online staff. This is a total degradation
of religion & cultural values of Somali community everywhere.
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Also, on behalf of the regular users of this website, we demand an official explanation and apology from HOL.
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I just spoke to one of the most respected sheikhs in London. He said, whoever put such information has commited a big sin and should ask forgivness from Allah. Please remove ASAP. If not removed, i will never ever visit HOL again. Never again.
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HOL. You are unwittingly participating and promoting the launch of one of the most evil deeds on earth. A qowmu luudh website. You are helping the spread of evil and fasahaad. Why?
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This is disgusting, unislamic and also unsomali. Shame on you HIIRAAN online. We dont need such a sick advert and a promotion of qowma luudh. There is plenty of good news to cover in our country at the moment. Dont just go with the flow. Whoever reads and follows that link with bad intentions, whoever put them online will share with their sins.
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Shame on you, Hiiraan, for publishing this non-Somali,
non-Muslim garbage aimed at brain washing our kids.
For the time being until you cleanse this felt from
your website, I added your site to the forbidden websites
in my household.
Shmame Shame.
Kucadaye
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Hiiraan Online waa dambi wayn inaad ku soo bandhigtaan
wax khaldan oo ah dambi wayn oo alle qoom dhan ku rogay
una ballan qaaday qofkii la yimaada ciqaab aan la ciqaabi doonin dadka kale
waxaadna ogaataan qofkasta oo booqda website-ka aad meesha ku soo xayaysiiseen
dambigiisa inaad bar leedihiin,so allah u toobad keena,dadkana raaligalin siiya walibana
ku soo qora cambaarayn qolada website-kaas furatay
oo aan u malaynayo inay yihioin gaalo rabta inay Soomaalida wax u dhimaan
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Inaa lilaahi wa inaa ilaahi raajicuun, War xishooda qolyihiina webkaan maamulaa, wixii dadka iyo dalka wax ukordhinayaa loo sheegaaye sumcad xumo haka qaadina KHANIIS XAYEYSIINTAAN.
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waa markii ay u dhammaatay webkan, ma aqaanno cidda
aad jeceshahay in aad qanciso, fadlan ka saara meesha
maqaalkan oo aan adduun iyo aakhiraba aan darajo ku
lahayn, waana wax adiga iyo inta aad ka masuultahay
u fiican in aydan waxaan ku darsan maqaallada aad
qoreysaan waxaan oo kale, waxaa jira ciddi jirran
ee cudurkan qaba hadda loo helay daawo, laakin ma
ahan in la dhiiri geliyo ama lagu faafiyo weebabakan
oo kale.
wuxuu ahaa my homebage,(hol) laakin waan iska beddelay
markii an arkay maqaalkan naxdinta leh.buy buy HOL
plz all be remembared we do not need these un natural
bussiness be published in the well known web bages.
i am not hating those sick people(gays)but i am against
putting them as a nutural people they are sick and need
medical and social treatment that is availble in african
tradtional medicin which is availble to many web bages,
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I am sure these are not the first of their kind but making a publication for them is an insult to the somali culture and unheard of. Being a gay is not even easy in America, the so called, most democratic country in the world, the system might protect them but they are under constant harassment everyday of their life. Now think about being a gay in somalia.
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To Hiran online staff,
I Demand that this article removed immediatley,this is
a disgrace and it is cheap advertisment for this decadent
group.
This amounts to spreading FAAXISHA amongst Muslims.
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