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Battles wipe out Mogadishu's basic services 


Emmanuel Goujon
Monday, December 10, 2007

Mogadishu, Somalia (AFP) - Back-to-back bloody clan battles in Somalia -- now spanning 16 years and worsened by nearly a year of insurgency -- have wiped out basic services in Mogadishu, where the latest clashes on Sunday claimed the life of a civilian and wounded three others.

The remaining Mogadishu residents, after most were driven out by the latest heavy fighting last month, eke out a living, making do with nearly nothing.

Despite efforts by the government to spruce up the city, cleaning and painting buildings -- at least those that have survived years of shelling -- garbage heaps make up much of the city's features while water and electricity remain a luxury.

Still, the endless fighting between the Ethiopia-backed Somali forces and Islamist insurgents has hampered government plans to restore peace and return the seaside capital to its pre-war state.

Since the fall of central government in 1991, the city has been deprived of basic services such as water, electricity and public telephones.

Private electricity supplier Hirsi Omar has kept parts of the war-ruined Mogadishu lit, but many of his customers have fled the recurrent city battles without paying their bills.

Omar is among many businessmen who have set up power generators across the city and nearby villages, taking advantage of the inability of successive rulers to provide basic services.

"Because the city is quite big and the central government collapsed, we had to provide people with electricity. In every village now there is a provider," said Omar, whose three giant generators supply 800 families with power.

For the 270 kilowatts per hour of electricity he produces, Omar charges his clients eight United States cents per kilowatt.

"Our electricity is on 24 hours. We can bake our cakes and bread, but it is quite expensive even if we receive discounts," said Fatma Mayor Mohamed, a local resident.

Omar also provides water to about 1 000 families in the city, where water drawn from wells is sold in jerrycans and transported in wooden hand-drawn carts.

With the onset of clan wars, Hussein Nur Ali (60) was forced to abandon his farming business and has resorted to selling well water across the city. Ali said: "It is good enough to feed my family. Normally I have more that 20 good customers."

Residents also complain of high commodity prices compounded by the closure of the main Bakara market -- a hideout for Islamist rebels and from where they have made several attacks against government targets.

In addition, the near-daily Islamist-led insurgency that has lasted for almost one year since their movement was defeated by government and Ethiopian forces has worsened the misery of the city residents.

The fighting has killed hundreds of people this year and sparked a dire humanitarian crisis described by the United Nations as Africa's worst.

Nearly 200 000 people fled the war-wracked capital in the latest fighting in November, while at least 600 000 others have been displaced from Mogadishu since February.

Source: AFP, Dec 10, 2007



       
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58 comment(s)
Gacaliye@ @ 12/14/2007 5:59 AM EST
 Mo_Mohamed sorry, I have to agree with Arraweelo this time about the fact that you are sick & therefore, need help!  
Arraweelo10 @ 12/12/2007 6:35 PM EST
 This is not a way that real man debates.  You are one sick man, go and get some help, you defeating the purpose of this whole forum.
Mo_Mohamed @ 12/12/2007 3:36 AM EST
 Geelle iyo Arraweelo,

Anigu waxaan sugi la' ahay maalinta ay Tigreegu ka baxaan dalka. Bal cidda aad iska celin kartaan ee aad hortooda soo istaagi kartaan ayaan eegeynaa. Dhabayaco waxay ahayd qoladii ugu horreysay ee Tigreega u habar wacata. Xusuuso Cadde Muuse wuxuu ka yiri BBC bishii June 2006 markii ay Maxkamaduhu soo marayeen Bandiiradleey. Wuxuu dabada la galay laba guuto oo Tigree ah. Aaway awoodda aad ku faani karto ee aad isaga keen dhicin kartaan? Sow ma ahayn Baydhabo tii lagu hareereysnaa ee Dhabayacadu ay hoos gashay Tigreega oo ay u geeyeen gabdhahoodii? Waa igu ballan inaad ka qoomameysaa soo hor kicidda aad soo horkacday Itoobiyaanka ee aad dariiqyada u tilmaamaysid. Darwiish iyo Dhabayacadii uu watay maxay hadda uga carareen Xamar oo ay u joogaan Baydhabo? Haddii ay Xamar qabsan karaan iyaga iyo Tigreega ay ku hoos dhuumanayaan waxay meesha joogaan hal sano ee maxay hal xaafad xitaa u degi la' yihiin? Waxaad ogaataan qabiilkii shalay kaa adkaa inuu maantana kaa adag yahay. He who defeated you yesterday could defeat you all the time.
Geele123 @ 12/11/2007 8:25 PM EST
 Mo_Mohamed

yaad ka adkaatay, YOU filthy savage. waa runtaa markii aad hubkii somaliya oo dhan aad gacanta kudhigtay baad shacab ku xasuuqday
maanta hub kadhigis baan kugu sameyay hubkaagii oo dhanna anuu gacanta iigu jiraa. maanta waxaan awoodaa adiga iyo maatadaabada inaan ku xasuuqo sidii aad yeeshay 1990's
laakiin kugu dayan maayo waxaan kuu arkaa doqon walaalkay OO WALIGII AAN XUKUMAYAY HADANA IS XUKUMI WAAYAY 17 SANO  XARAANA AH
intii aad is cunaysay 17 sano waa tababaranaynay, WAXAAN U IMI MUQDISHU INAAN KU BADBAADSHO, OO WAXA DOWLAD NIMO TAHAY KUBARO YOU DISGRACE HOPELES SAVAGES
ilaahayow mey maanta may baxaan tigree, WAXAAD SAMAYN KARTO AAN ARAGNEE
YOU WILL REMAIN DISARMED FOR NEXT 100 YEARS
Geele123 @ 12/11/2007 8:21 PM EST
 Mo_Mohamed

yaad ka adkaatay, YOU filthy savage. waa runtaa markii aad hubkii somaliya oo dhan aad gacanta kudhigtay baad shacab ku xasuuqday
maanta hub kadhigis baan kugu sameyay hubkaagii oo dhanna anuu gacanta iigu jiraa. maanta waxaan awoodaa adiga iyo maatadaabada inaan ku xasuuqo sidii aad yeeshay 1990's
laakiin kugu dayan maayo waxaan kuu arkaa doqon walaalkay OO WALIGII AAN XUMUMAYAY HADANA IS XUKUMI WAAYAY 17 SANO  XARAANA AH
intii aad is cunaysay 17 sano waa tababaranaynay, WAXAAN U IMI MUQDISHU INAAN KU BADBAADSHO, OO WAXA DOWLAD NIMO TAHAY KUBARO YOU DISGRACE HOPELES SAVAGES
ilaahayow mey maanta may baxaan tigree, WAXAAD SAMAYN KARTO AAN ARAGNEE
YOU WILL REMAIN DISARMED FOR NEXT 100 YEARS
Arraweelo10 @ 12/11/2007 5:30 PM EST
 War Tigreega waxaa dalka keenay waa adiga iyowaxa kula midka ahaa dhuuniraacnimadooda oo kala garan waayey wakhti iyo meel aad joogtaan, sidaad xaraan u jaqeyseen 16 sano. Waad ku miyir beesheen, waana ka ag kici la'dihiin. Ku dhimo bliliqada ogowna in ilaahey raali kaaga ahayn, haddad iska dhaadhicisay.
Mo_Mohamed @ 12/11/2007 3:18 PM EST
 Inaan kaa adkahay, waxaa og Ilaaheey, adigaa og, Soomaalida kale ayaa og, anigaa og, gaalada ayaa og. Waxaan kaaga adkaaday Gaalkacyo, Xamar, Baydhabo, Jowhar, Kismaayo iyo meel walba oo aan Dhabayaco isugu soo baxnay. Wallaahi waxaan aaminsanahay inaan Tigreegu cadow ii ahayn ee aniga cadowgeygu waa adiga. Tigreegu iima muuqdaan ee aniga adiga ayaa ii muuqda. Tigreegu dalka inay haystaan oo qabsadaan waxba iima ahan aniga unless they don't parachute Warlord Abdullahi Yusuf and his Dhabayaco to Mogadishu, Somalia's Capital City and the hub of Samaale civilization.
Arraweelo10 @ 12/11/2007 2:06 PM EST
 Mo Mohamed

Maxaa tiri waan kaa adkahay, walaalow xagge iga adkaatay. Mise waad riyootay, waxaad is leedahay inaad ku disho dhiciskaaga 1000 qof oo ah qabaa'ilida aad neceb tahay oo afkaaga iskuga ah ka taqtaqaaya 24/7, is lehna Sayidna Cali Seeftiisii waa ka quwad wey yahay.

Mooryaan qarandiid/soomalidiid, is gee meesha aad leedahay tigree baa jooga oo tus ragganimadaada intaad halkaan ku hunqaaceyso sidii walacii.
n.bashiir @ 12/11/2007 10:54 AM EST
 Guys this is  not about Majeerteen this is about Mr yay and his evil crew
including Hawie. Hwiye are the ones that elected the monster
and he is using them against the people. Nuur Cadde is abgal and he said there is no prpblem in Mogadisho
the collaborators are not Darood or Majerteen period
shanta @ 12/11/2007 10:11 AM EST
 The so called custodians of Somalia: remnants of Clan Occupation Regime are pretending to be freedoms fighters and at the same time misreading history to conform their perception of great illusion of dominating our nation for means of profit.  It’s agreed that this has been the case, for 17 years what did they accomplish? Make no mistake, they created, supported, financed, and mentored the warlords, and now for some miraculous reason they can’t tolerate them.  Freedoms fighters must not interpret history as if he/she is the only fighter in this battle Somalia stands against you.  Whom are you liberating the nation from?  The deranged and morally corrupted regime of Al-Anarkiyah, that proliferate unimaginable violence toward the innocent and unsuspecting civilians who vanished over night in a well calculated plan to commit genocide and gain territory exponentially.  Did you care? Did the name Somali meant anything to you? Did the phrase uttered by the victim imploring Allah’s name in vain meant anything to you? You want to call yourself the custodian? Somalia is united against those who refuse to accept peace!
somalipeace10 @ 12/11/2007 9:23 AM EST
 This is the kind of people who support the warlords. We are talking baout Somalia and he resorts to clan and name calling. Morgan isa war criminal who single-handedly destroyed our second capital Hargeisa and today Abdulahi Yusuf who is number one clannist made him his representative. The other more important point is that as far as relations with other countries are concerned, The Cabinet is responsible, thus warlord Yusuf is abusing his power. Try to bring counter arguments if you have any or shut up. Somali people are united and are against the occupation and its servants, and we refuse to be divided by te occupation and its mindless lap dogs.
Geele123 @ 12/11/2007 7:08 AM EST
 SOMALIPEACE10
YEP ARAB BEGGING WAS LEARN FROM MORYAN THUGS AND THE SO CALLED ICU FAKE INDHACADDE RELIGION
NOW THE TFG HAS LEARN HOW TO DO IT BETTER AND THESE WILL BE USED TO ELIMINATE THE REMAINING THUGS
YOU ARE DEFEATED FINANCIALLY, MILITARILY AND POLITICALLY YOU ARE WASTED MORYANS IN EVERY POSSIBLE WAY,
GALGADUUD MOORYAAN THUGS SHUT UP AND GO BACK YOUR REGION OR ELSE YOU WILL END UP LIKE AJUURAAN

somalipeace10 @ 12/11/2007 3:59 AM EST
 Morgan (Butcher of Hargeisa) and Omar Azhari were sent to Kuwait to meet Kuwaiti officials and beg them. However, Abdulahi Yusuf has no authority under the TFG charter to send people to foreign countries. Where are the different ministers?. This ugly project has turned into sub-clan business. Please read the following news:
Ergo ka socota C/laahi Yuusuf oo socdaal ku joogta dalkaasi Kuwait,kaasi oo dhaqaale loogu raadinayo Xukuumadda.  
Posted to the Web Dec 11, 07:53

Wafdi uu hogaaminayo General Max'ed Saciid Xirsi Moorgan isla markaana uu madaxweyne C/laahi Yuusuf u diray dalkaasi Kuwait ayaa kulamo la qaadanaya Amiirka dalkaasi iyo masuuliyiintaba.



Afhayeenka Madaxweynaha Axmed Cumar Azhari oo kamid ah wafdiga Moorag uu hogaaminayo ee ku sugan Kuwait ayaa sheegay in ay kala hadleen amiirka dalka Kuwait Sheekh Axmed Al Subaax arrimaha Somaliya.



Waxaa Azhari intaasi uu ku daray in ay u gacan galiyaan masuliyiinta rer Kuwait dhanbaal ay kaga wadeen Madaxweyne C/laahi Yuusuf oo isaguba ku xanuunsanaya Cusbitaal ku yaalla London.



Afhayeenka Yusuf waxaa uu sheegay in dawladda Kuwait ay kala hadlayaan sidii ay dawladda Federaalka Somaliya ku siin laheyd taageero xagga dhaqaalaha,Waxbarashada iyo waliba dhinacyada Tayaynta Deegaanka.



Mudo iminka laga joogo 3 bilood ayuu Madaxweyne C/laahi Yuusuf gaaray dalkasi Kuwait iyadoona lasoo gaaray masuuliyiinta dalkaasi heshiis dhigayay in Kuwait iyo Somaliya iska kaashadaan arrimo aad u fara badan.



Xafiiska wararka soomaalinews.com,Muqdisho.



E-mail:admin@soomaalinews.com


n.bashiir @ 12/10/2007 10:22 PM EST
 Mr Nuur cadde with Cawke this morning
we heard you today we heard that you are professional  coward
with Mr yay you could not even say there is problem in Mogadisho.
I found that you are a big liar. To day was the only day I through up when you said that
an honest man never talks like you did. all I can say to you
is wait the slap you will have your good short time with Yay,
because Mr Yay is a dictator. Dictators do not like cowards.
from today on he knows more about you. did you get the massage?
shanta @ 12/10/2007 7:48 PM EST
 Sheik Bana, spiritual adviser for Abdullahi.
somalipeace10 @ 12/10/2007 7:16 PM EST
 Morgan( Butcher of Hargeisa)  recently went to Kuweit as a representative of warlord Abdulahi Yusuf. Somaliweyn (one of the websites that support the Mbagati group broke this story.
http://somaliweyn.com/pages/news/Dec_07/10Dec20.html
somalipeace10 @ 12/10/2007 7:12 PM EST
 I challenge most fervant defenders of Abdulahi yusuf and the occupation, Shanta/Arraweelo10 to name only one person outside Abdulahi's clan who works in the so-called presidential office (which has more than 123 workers). Do not start beating about the bush and try to change the subject, that tactic will not work.  
somalipeace10 @ 12/10/2007 7:08 PM EST
 I think it is a mistake to call Abdulahi Yusuf "Somali president" because he does not recognize himself for the following reasons.
In the presidential office there is no other Somali other than his sub-clan. All his so-called advisers and spokesmen  like Abdirizak Durqun, Alazhari, Abdirashid Qoor, Xuubsireed, Bari Bari, Morgan (Butcher of Hargeisa), Ina Dhiigsokeeye, Ina Libaax san ka taabte, Xiif Ali Taar to name but  few belong to his clan. Other Somalis are not allowed to work there. So this can not be called Somali office it is sub-clan office (Omar Mohamoud). The 24 ambassadors appointed, more than 15 are from Abdulahi Yusuf's sub-clan, if the appointment was based on the so-called 4.5, Abdulahi's sub-clan cannot get more than 1 ambassador. This ailing old man is clan chief and Somali people from different clans must reject him. If he is president of a country, you would find different Somalis in his office. This is worst corruption nepotism Somalia has ever witnessed. To the blind supporters of Abdulahi Yusuf, please try to argue against these clear facts and mention one individual from other Soamli clan who works in the office of Abdulahi Yusuf, and do not try to resort to name calling as usual.
Somalipeace10 @ 12/10/2007 7:02 PM EST
 I wonder who feeds Arraweelo10 and Shanta? I started to debate them 7 hours ago before I went to work, and now I returned 7 hours later and they are still defending warlord and Ethiopian atrocities. It is not only today, but they are online 24/7 , who foots their bills, or they are unfortunate ones who live on benefits of the west and try to prolong the suffering of the innocent Somali people?
The past atrocities these people are talking about is committed by the warlords they are blindly supporting. The most shameful thing is to deny the violations of our sacred mosques by the occupataion forces. They do not deserve to be debated.
Mo_Mohamed @ 12/10/2007 6:11 PM EST
 Carraweelo,

Waxaa lagu xaaraa futo aad leedahay ee laguma xaaro futo aadan lahayn. Tigreegu dalka waa ka bixi doonaan, waana la isaga keen dhex tegi doonaa. Haddaba xaggeed ka geli doontaan dhulka? Anigu haddii na la ka dhex baxo inaan kaa adkahay, Ilaaheeyna waa ogyahay, adiguna waad ogtahay, dadkuna waa ogyihiin, anna waan ogahay. Haddii aad leedahay awood aad wax ku maquunin karto, kuma aadan qasbanaateen inaad Tigreega sariirta u seexato, adeerkaa qabqable Cabdullaahi Yuusuf Yeeyga kuma qasbanaadeen inuu bil walba report-ka geeyo Addis Ababa. Jileecaaga iyo daciifnimadaada waxaa muujinaya in lagaa ceyrsaday Gaalkacyo, Kismaayo, Baydhabo, Laas Caanood iyo meel walba oo aad is tiraahdid qabso. Wallaahi baan ku dhaartay, the weakest Somali wuxuu aaminsan yahay inuu ka adag yahay at least 50 Dhabayaco mercenaries.
Arraweelo10 @ 12/10/2007 5:37 PM EST
 Maxaa ka jira in Muqaawamada ay isku urursaneyso Gobolada dhexe iyo Jubooyinka. Ka dib markii Xamar waddadii caddeyd cagta saareen, ka caraabiyeen..  
curad @ 12/10/2007 5:24 PM EST
 Arraweelo loooooool. jump ball dad badan baa ku kacaya oo u malaynaa
beentaa la wareejinayo run. anaga haddaan nahay somali ethiopians the same Propaganda news was used against
us by ONLF and they are the only ones killing innocent people.

The truth always prevails.
please watch brother guledcase videos what onlf is doing to our somalis in ethiopia

http://www.youtube.com/user/guledcase
sonofsomalia @ 12/10/2007 4:28 PM EST
 adamjama

  They say, to a two year old with hammer, everything looks like nail. I am not asking you to support this government, I was asking Shanta and Somalipeace10, to begin the healing process. But I see the drums of war sound more sweeter to your.
nomadic1 @ 12/10/2007 4:08 PM EST
 What a potential conflict of interest!!
nomadic1 @ 12/10/2007 4:04 PM EST
 Who wants a government when everything is privatised.
Arraweelo10 @ 12/10/2007 3:48 PM EST
 ok it is play time for the cyper mooryaans...Loooool Tigree masaajid ku xaaraaya, Tigre massajid ku xaraaya (cought on tape)....kkkkkkkkkkkkkkk Dadka ma waxay maleeyeen ciyaal labo jir ah, wixii la rabo loo sheegayo, sheekadii dagaalada sokeeye loogu kicin jiray dadka waxaa ka mid ahaa, in niman Soomaliyeed la dhufaaney isla markaan la cunsiiyay qaar ka mid ah qaybaha taranka, meeqa qabiil ayaa jump ball kaas oo kale loo dhigay, oo hal iska reebin.  
nomadic1 @ 12/10/2007 3:40 PM EST
 Somalia is in davestated beyond repair.Is it not time to face reality and let people mind their businesses.
n.bashiir @ 12/10/2007 3:36 PM EST
 Yes I know Ms Arro He is the shadow of your uncle, he is behind him
he is after him and he is at his sides. How do you like that
Ms Vampire
mardaadi @ 12/10/2007 3:34 PM EST
 Maanta ma wel dad soomaalinimo iyo islaanimo sheeganaya ayaa
inkiraya in Tigreegu Masaajidii muqdisho uu musqulo ka dhigtay
Kitaabadii Quraankana jeexjeeay??
Cajiib walee afka islaam laga wada sheegay, laakin Ilaah baa og
wax dadka qaar uurka u jira!!
Mida aan rabo inaan Soomaalida wadiniyiinta ah xasuusiyo
waxa weeye, Araweelo10 ha ku qaldamina, hana u jawaabina
in ay tahay Qabiil Soomaaliyeed darteed, qabiilada soomaalida
kama tirsana naagtaas waa naag loo shaqaaleeyay inay tigreega
difaacdo , Qabaailaadka soomaalidana iska hor keento,
iyada oo inta badan caynaysa qabaailaadka Soomaalida
ee Muqaawamada ku badan iyada oo is ku dayaysa Jawaabtu
in ay noqota in la caayo dadka qabiil ahaan u taageera ina Yeey
iyo Maxamed Dheere.
Marka waxaan u sheegaynaa habarta gadan in qabaailaadka ay
ka soo jeedaan ina yeey iyo Maxamed Dheere ay yihiin
kuwa muqaawamada uga jira safka hore, aysana mudnayn
in wax laga sheego qabiil Soomaaliyeed.
Naag Tigree masaajid k xaaray difaacaysa ilaah baa og meesha
u danbaynaysa, Wanaag sugimaysoe allaha u soo dedejiyo
waxa ay mutaysatay oo ah cadaa daran.
Arraweelo10 @ 12/10/2007 3:30 PM EST
 Does anyone know the where abouts of Indhacade? is it true he was interviewed by BBC Somali, while he was bad mouthing PM Nur Cadde.  
shabeel @ 12/10/2007 3:13 PM EST
 This Yeey cheerleader, the cabbie-ambassador-wannabee-armchair warrior had the audacity to say in public, we had accomplished our mission: to destroy Mogadishu.
he said we can all start from ground zero, forgive each other and forget what happened.
Then one bozo asked him, do you think there will be reprisals and do you expect your kind to live peacefully among Mogadishu residents.
Guess what was his answer? There won't be no Mogadishu and the capital will be moved to ..............
it is hopeless! This is a pure hatred and deep-rooted enmity. It is in your face and it creates more anmosity. reconciliation and finding justice is not even on the plate.
We have been bamboozled and we in the diaspora who have enjoyed peace and experienced how civil societies function have to deal with ignorance, arrogance, sickos, and unforgiving enemies to reclaim out nation!

Fiqicigaal @ 12/10/2007 3:09 PM EST
 Of course we need to reflect the past to learn from our mistakes, focus to the present to prepare for the future. But guys is it worth to play victims all the time and disregard the reality on the ground ? yes it is true that evil things has happened to our people and the worst is to come unless right decisions are taken by selfless noble men who have no hiden agendas.Do we have those rightous men in somalia or is it about time the rest of the world takes the lead and decides what is to be done about this failed state and it's long suffering people?
shabeel @ 12/10/2007 3:05 PM EST
 Somalipeace, your arguments are factual and rational. You are debating with clannish clowns.
It is futile to argue with these dim-witted die-hards.
I know half of the appointed ambassadors who are from Yusuf's sub-clan are incompetent, unqualified college-drop outs.
I know a taxi-driver /cabbie and well-known armchair warrior who now boast as a Somali ambassador.
This is blatant and shameless nepotism and I am sorry to say this, majority of Yeey's sub-clan are shameless cheerleaders!
But the good thing is Yeey is ill, old and about to expire. Their whole shenanigans will end with this lilly-livered octogenarian
Arraweelo10 @ 12/10/2007 2:57 PM EST
 Tigreegana ilaah baa kuu soo diray danbigaaga dartiisa, ka xaaxaabi...isla markaasna adkeyso, ee iska daa inaad sidii qof desperate ah aad dhoodhoobto borobagaan raqiis ah, sow ma ahid nin freedom fighter ah oo diin iyo dal u dagaalamay kkkkkkkk (bililiqo), iska daa sheekadaa xaarka iyo kaadida iyo cayda. Show what you got, dagaalka gal.  
Arraweelo10 @ 12/10/2007 2:47 PM EST
 Brother MO

"Muslim iyo nimaan kuula socon mumminimo khaas ah -Gaal Maxasta kuu korinyaa dhamma".
Waxaan dhacdo run ah in Somaali badan lagu laayey masjidkeenii dhexdiisa oo ahayd meeshu ugu danbeysa dadku gabaad u soo geli jireen, laguna kufsaday gabdho fara badan. Sow nin islaam maad hayn markay waxaas oo dhan dhacaayeen, xaggee Maankaaga, Soomalinimdaada  iyo Caqiidadaa jirtay (mise short break ayaad ka qaadatay oo hadda ayaad soo noqotay, adigoo islaan ah oo tobad keenay).

Dayniile iyo adiga isku mid ayaad tihiin, beenloowyaal, falalowyaal warka beenta ah waadba ka baayac mushtartaan.
Mo_Mohamed @ 12/10/2007 2:21 PM EST
 Dayniile runta iyo xaqiiqda ayay ka warramaan iyo waxa ay Tigreegu ka geysanayaan Somalia iyo afduubka ay ku haystaan dadka iyo dalka. Haddii aad taas raalli ku tahay, cadaabta ayaad la galaysaa gaalada. Waxaa run ah inay kitaabkii isaga tireen saxarada, inay masaajidyadii ku kaadsheen, gaar ahaan minbarka iyo meesha Imaamku ka khudbeeyo. Waxaan Caraweelooy u maleynayaa inaad ka mid tahay 40-kii gabdhood ee Dhabayacadu ay ugu deeqeen Itoobiyaanka oo ay u siiyeen abaalgudka, iyagoo ku yiri 'dhiiggiina ayaad sacriface noogu sameyseen oo aad noo horteen.' Waxaa la yiri Dhabayaco maxaa u diin ah? Waxaa lagu jawaabay 'waxay rabaan ayaa u diin ah.' La yaab ma lahan inaad u cudurdaaraysaan falalka foosha xun ee gaalada Tigreegu ay ka geysanayaan dalka. Miyaadan ogeyn gaalada oo lala safto inay ka mid tahay calaamadaha munaafaqiinta?
Arraweelo10 @ 12/10/2007 2:15 PM EST
 dayniile.com wuxuu soo qoray in Itoobiianka ay ku xarayaan masaajidyada isla markaana ay kitaabka isaga tirtirayaan xaarka. Maalin dhexdaas ahna waxay lahaayeen dad rayid ah ayay gowraceen Itoobiyanka tangiyada, BM iyo Bazuukayasha haysta. War waxaas oo kale yaa arkay, xataa ka been sheegida kitaabka inuu denbi yahay sow ma oga. Subxaana alaah, dadka qaarkood waan ogohay inay ka suurowdo inayba ayaga ku xaraan masjidka, si ay Itoobiya ugu nabaan.
adamjama @ 12/10/2007 1:35 PM EST
 Can you explain further your statement "For Allah's sake Forgive, Forget and Go Forward". Do you mean forgive the war lords & the atrocities they committed against the Somali people for years, forget you are being occupied & enslaved, & go forward by paying the "Gibir" Ethiopian imposed taxes to feed their army? Help me out.....
Fiqicigaal @ 12/10/2007 1:32 PM EST
 This tit for tat scenario will never takes us any where but will only expose the true colours of those who i find it difficult to meet them half way in our quest for a better somalia .There are no saints in somalia and it takes two to tango . Can we cut to the chase ,leave the past for a second , come to the table and set our differences aside for the sake of our nation or do we choose to witness the total disintegration of what was once somalia?
sonofsomalia @ 12/10/2007 1:15 PM EST
 shanta, Somalipeace10

  I challenge you to put forward a solution, all you are good for is arguing and making grandiose statements. I neither care for Yusuf nor the clan resistance. Somalia was long dead before the Ethiopians were on top of us. For Allah's sake Forgive, Forget and Go Forward.  
shanta @ 12/10/2007 11:51 AM EST
 I haven’t heard the word Shufto for a long time until you used it couple days ago. It remained me of Radio Mogadishu news, back in the old days where thieves were despised.
Arraweelo10 @ 12/10/2007 11:44 AM EST
 They will never surrender and give up shufto business (by now they are holding Phd of shufto studies), they have to be flushed out by force, no negotiation, no mercy.
shanta @ 12/10/2007 11:35 AM EST
 First, develop a clear strategy in winning the hearts and the minds of the Somali people by accepting a moral defeat; after all it was during your reign in the Somali Kingdom that Amhara settled in Via Roma. Acknowledge past mistakes and ask for forgiveness, and know that Somalis are very forgiving people. But before you do that you must denounce all forms of violence, and get out of the Shufto business.
Somalipeace10 @ 12/10/2007 11:22 AM EST
 Warlords and their lap dogs are making a bet in a burning house. The occupation is getting weaker by the day and the resistance against it is getting stronger. The entire international community recognises that and is making an effort to replace the occupation forces.
You simply lie like a rug, you do not give a dam to governance, religion or Somalia. You are simply supporting warlord from your sub-clan that is warlord Abdulaji Yusuf. The fact is though that the warlords who wreaked havoc on the Somali people are united in this warlord government. You are foolishy and futiley trying to give their crimes clan twist.lap dogs of the warlords lost the plot. When ever Ethiopian crimes are mentioned they try to say that something happened in the past. At the same time they support the warlords who are responsible for those crimes.
shanta @ 12/10/2007 11:19 AM EST
 Abdullahi is here because this nation of children couldn’t decide on how to save themselves. The past that you are reluctant to talk about have produced your current reality of finding Amhara in the Via Roma, therefore it could be said that your fruits are coming into fruition.
shanta @ 12/10/2007 11:11 AM EST
 Somalia was united country before Tigree forces loyal to Abdullahi illegally seized it.  If that were the case everywhere in Somalia, we would have seen a united front to end this occupation. But why is the rest of Somalia indifferent about this issue? Where are the enraged Somalis? Perhaps they are confined in small pockets throughout Somalia knowing their history very well, and are ashamed of it, since they facilitated the invasion due to many years of neglect.
somalipeace10 @ 12/10/2007 10:58 AM EST
 You simply lie like a rug, you do not give a dam to governance, religion or Somalia. You are simply supporting warlord from your sub-clan that is warlord Abdulaji Yusuf. The fact is though that the warlords who wreaked havoc on the Somali people are united in this warlord government. You are foolishy and futiley trying to give their crimes clan twist.lap dogs of the warlords lost the plot. When ever Ethiopian crimes are mentioned they try to say that something happened in the past. At the same time they support the warlords who are responsible for those crimes.
somalipeace10 @ 12/10/2007 10:53 AM EST
  I think it is a mistake to call Abdulahi Yusuf "Somali president" because he does not recognize himself for the following reasons.
In the presidential office there is no other Somali other than his sub-clan. All his so-called advisers and spokesmen  like Abdirizak Durqun, Alazhari, Abdirashid Qoor, Xuubsireed, Bari Bari and many others belong to his clan. Other Somalis are not allowed to work there. So this can not be called Somali office it is sub-clan office (Omar Mohamoud). The 24 ambassadors appointed, more than 15 are from Abdulahi Yusuf's sub-clan, if the appointment was based on the so-called 4.5, Abdulahi's sub-clan cannot get more than 1 ambassador. This ailing old man is clan chief and Somali people from different clans must reject him. If he is president of a country, you would find different Somalis in his office. This is worst corruption nepotism Somalia has ever witnessed. To the blind supporters of Abdulahi Yusuf, please try to argue against these clear facts and mention one individual from other Soamli clan who works in the office of Abdulahi Yusuf, and do not try to resort to name calling as usual.
shanta @ 12/10/2007 10:44 AM EST
 I’m not running away from my past, neither should you?  But coming to terms of what has transpired in Somalia is the key that holds our future, and allows us to move from this stagnant position, given that you realize the people whom you consider religious are the same as the warlords, but on the other side of the spectrum.  Religion and politics don’t mix, simply because politics overrides religion and marginalize it into a new form of entity that is less desirable and comparable to Taliban or Soviet Union style of governance.  Honestly would you vote for Indhacade?
somalipeace10 @ 12/10/2007 10:42 AM EST
 Your point of view towards Islam is clear and does not need any elaboration. What the whole world saw on screen was authentic images of Ethiopian faeces in our mosques and its scandalous to try to justify every crime that Ethiopian occupation commits.Fortunately the whole Somali public is outraged and will never accept such violation against their religion.
shanta @ 12/10/2007 10:35 AM EST
 What being a Muslim got to do with our little debate? Perhaps you ought do some research into the past and you might find out that many offenses and discretion have been leveled against the House of God by the Muslim Somali in eager to appease clan driven animosity in search of revenge, while disregarding the laws of Allah.  
shanta @ 12/10/2007 10:21 AM EST
  Propaganda that is meant to steer our emotions and raise our anger towards the Ethios is not going to happen. The anarchist shot a man in the Mosque (first time I hear such offense) and many of you as customary didn’t condemn the act, but choose to alternate the issue by commenting other prevailing issues.  It’s okay for a Somali to disrespect the House of Allah, provided he serves the interest of the anarchist?
somalipeace10 @ 12/10/2007 10:18 AM EST
 Security of Moadishu and the surrounding areas was the best coupled with justice when the illegal invasion took place and the warlords came back. But from your answer I deduct that you either do not care about the abuses of the Houses of Allah or your clan loyalty goes way beyond your religious obligation, if you are a muslim.
shanta @ 12/10/2007 10:09 AM EST
 Don’t we all have our priorities reversed? Financial institutions and higher education, absent is security that protects the ordinary citizens in Mogadishu.    
somalipeace10 @ 12/10/2007 9:59 AM EST
 Ethiopian troops not only destroyed services but killed thousands of Somalis and disrupted peace and stability that was prevalent in south central Somalia. Ethiopian troops and the warlord militia carried out pillaging and wide spread looting in parts of Mogadishu that they occupied. Ethiopian troops used our SACRED MOSQUES as toilets, leaving faeces in the mosques, they even used our Holly Quran book as a toilet paper. This is documented by national and international media. This is really a test case for those who support the warlords, do you support this practice? Because if you do, the case is closed and we no not need to discuss anything more with you.  
somalipeace10 @ 12/10/2007 9:44 AM EST
  Ethiopia and its stooges are destroying the developments that have been hard achieved by Mogadishu residents. Mogadishu is commercial, financial, educational, intellectual center of Somalia. The development that the whole Somalia is associated with is the Mogadishu one. For example the world knows that Somalia reached high standards of free media, telecommunications and remittance services. There are more than 23 higher education institutions in Mogadishu, that is 6 times the number of higher education facilities of the whole country. The only reason that Ethiopia is targetting Mogadishu is that they know that if Mogadishu is destroyed the whole country will follow. Luckily the brave boys of Mogadishu are showing our enemy that the pride of our Somali people is still alive and kicking.
shanta @ 12/10/2007 9:08 AM EST
 While Puntaland and Northwest region have established local governance to provided basic services, Mogadishu has failed to erect a system that is essential for the common good of the residents, but emphasizing the importance of individual wealth and control of the resources by the few; the merchants of Mogadishu have long practiced predatory business skills that kept the city fragmented and chaotic for their benefit.  The merchants of Mogadishu have therefore ruined the country’s economy by importing commodities with their buy low and sell high mentality while driving the local independent producers to quit and fire their work force.  Who can compete with Made in China?

Dr Ali @ 12/10/2007 8:18 AM EST
 Service was wipe out when Amhara and its murtaddeen took over Somalia. The little service that Mogadishu use comes from wealthy Islamist high spirit. Amhara cow couldn't build for himself even Somali old style toilet. So stop lying

 
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