By Aweys Yusuf
Friday, September 07, 2007
MOGADISHU (Reuters) - Somali Prime Minister Ali Mohamed Gedi will meet Abukar Omar Adan, a top financial backer of the ousted Islamic Courts movement, on Friday in Djibouti to encourage its fighters to accept a government amnesty.
The move came a day after a fugitive leader of the hardline movement made his first public appearance, after months on the run, at a conference of Somali opposition figures in Eritrea.
"The talks have been organized by Djibouti officials and are anticipated to unite Islamists who are going to take advantage of the government's amnesty," Gedi's spokesman Musse Kulow said.
Gedi's interim government is struggling to impose its authority on the Horn of Africa nation, which has been in chaos since warlords overthrew dictator Mohamed Siad Barre in 1991.
The appearance of Sheikh Hassan Dahir Aweys, who some believe is behind an anti-government insurgency in Mogadishu, at the meeting in Asmara came a week after Gedi's administration ended its own reconciliation conference in the Somali capital.
Kulow said the prime minister's talks in Djibouti with Adan, a 72-year-old Somali businessman, would be friendly.
"It is a family negotiation because Adan hails from the same sub-clan as Gedi," Kulow told Reuters. "After the talks, it is expected ... (he) will return to Mogadishu with him."
Adan surrendered to the authorities in neighboring Kenya after Somali interim government troops backed by the Ethiopian military routed the Islamists from Mogadishu over the New Year.
He admitted being in Kenya illegally, but in February an immigration case against him was dropped without explanation.
At the conference in Eritrea, another Islamist leader -- Sheikh Sharif Ahmed -- called on the United States to engage with the Somali opposition, and rejected charges of terrorism against the Courts that he said had been fabricated by Ethiopia.
Mark Schroeder, Africa analyst with U.S.-based intelligence consultancy Stratfor, said there seemed little common ground.
"Neither side in the Somali conflict ... is willing to compromise at this point," Schroeder said in a statement.
Source: Reuters, Sept 07, 2007
The Somali uprising has just started. my hut is off for the people Heliwaa, the Duduble and the Saruur who have shown they are the real masters of the jungle when it comes to patriotism. History will remember you and we the rest of the Somali people will remember you. You have became a roll-model and others will have to learn from you. Thank you
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Dr Ali or should I say Dr. Do Little
What a disappointing doctor you are, I feel sorry that a person who calls himself such a title vomits like you do. If the facts and reality in Somalia are giving you insomnia, do not resort to clanish nonsense cause we all have been there and done that. Dottore, It is over no more clan occupation and no more criminal minded individuals who running our lifes. Our Prime Minister Gedi is doing political milestone and he is trying to disengage in house political malfunction. ICU is another reflection of our clanish dirt, they can't safe Somalia and you know what Somalia needs to be put out of harm's way from their likes.
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Gedi is dependent on Ethiopia and he cannot make any decisions without his Tigrean puppeteers, the same is true for warlord Abdulahi yusuf. The view point of the UIC is clear and that is first to liberate the country and then it is possible for Somalis to discuss their affairs. Although I have high regard for Haji Adani and his opinion about the occupation he remains one individual. The Union of Islmaic courts in particular and the wider Somali public both are determined to free our country. Some warlord apologists think that the colonial occupation is helping their clan but they will end up crying soon. The conflict that the warlords are creating will first engulf their clansmen. Somali people must not fall into the trap of the warlords and the colonial forces and remain united.
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You can write long comments , recite poems or even foul mouth to those who have different views than your rigid and radicle mind set to the current somali politics but you can not change the reality on the ground unless you prepared to take risk and play the right card AT THIS TIME which will allow you to weasle your way with diplomacy and tolerance. This is a mile stone for Mr Geedi to bring back a big fish from a sea of bewildered self claimed politicians and former islamists who abandoned their followers in the middle of a war they started foolishly wthout a plan and agenda
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Hadaad aqriso bogaga internetka ee taageerayaasha C/Laahi yuusuf waxaad umaleyneysaa in ay yihiin Itoobiyaan. Waxaad arkeysaa iyagoo rayn rayn usoo qoraya ciimo itoobiyaan ah ayaa magaalo hebla gaarey. Kuwo si khaas ah utababaran oo birta calashadey ayaa muqdisho kusoo jeeda. Ciidamada Mileteriga Itoobiya ayaa gaaf wareegaya wadooyinka Muqdishoo dhan. isku tiirintaas xad dhaafkaa ee xoogaga shisheeye waa mid ay taageerayaashu ka dhaxleen hogaamiyahooda. Hadaad ufiirsato taageerayaashiisa koofurta soomaaliya meel ay ka muuqdaan ma jirto. Markii maleeshiyo yar oo degaankaa ku kacdo cagahey wax ka deyayaan iyagoo leh walaahi Itoobiyaan kuu soo sheegaa, shuqul ciyaal oo kale.
Xaalka dadkaasi waxey la mid tahay dadka fadhiga cayrta ku qaata oo kale oo aanba baranin iney soo dhididaan oo waxey soo shaqeystaan cunaan.
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Qoraalka hoose oo is bar badhigu waa anigoo wadaad yaraa weliba warbaa ii hariyo hadala waaweyne
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Bravo DR.Ali iyo Hanixin
Caraweelo waa gabar dirac laakiin waxey dooneysaa iney afkeeda ku badbaadiso waxaan la badbaadin karin.
Waxaan aad ugu fiirsadey arin cajiib leh oo ubaahan in la qaadaa dhigo, taasoo ah is bar bar dhiga sadexda hogaamiye ee kala ah Maxamed Siyaad Bare, Caydiid iyo C/Laahi yuusuf. Iyo raadka psyclogigaa ay ku yeesheen taageerayaashooda. Maxamed Siyaad wuxuu ahaa hogaamiye qaran oo qabiil ma hogaamineyn. Walow ay gacantiisa ku bur burtey qaranimadii hadana way adagtahay in la bar bar dhigo labada hogaamiye kooxeed. Laakiin sadexdoodu waxa ugu muhimsan oo ka dhexeeyey waxey aheyd kursi jaceylka. Amaan jaceylka iyo qabyaalada. Isla markaasna sadexdooduba waxey ahaayeen R/Gobolada dhexe. Laakiin C/laahi yuusuf wuxuu labada hogaamiye ee kale kaga duwanyahey hal arin oo aad umiisaan culus, taasoo ah inuu yahay nin aan ku kalsooneyn soomaalinimada iyo qabiilka uu ka dhasheyba.
Waa nin ay ku weyntahay inuu taangi xabashi wax ku noqdo,laga soo bilaabo maalintii uu Itoobiya ugaley ilaa maanta oo madaxtooyo taangi itoobiya lagu waardiyeynayo.
Hadaba waxaa jirta xikmad qadiimi ah oo leh dadku waxey leeyihiin diinta boqoradooda, hadaba sidee usaameysey mentalitigaas itoobiya ku tiirsanaantaa taageerayaashiisa? Waa arin ubaahan in aad loo daraaseeyo.
Caydiid shaki kuma jiro inuu ahaa geesi nafti mahlig ah, aadna iskugu kalsoon heer khiyaali ah. Taas wuxuu ugudbiyey taageerayaashiisa qabiilka,waxaanan umaleynayaa iney tahay halka dhaxal oo wax kasoo qaadka leh ee ay ka heleen taageerayaashiisu. Isku kalsoonaantu waa wax aad qaali u ah oo aan dahab la siisan.
C/Laahi wuxuu u gudbiyey taageerayaashiisa oo ay ka dhaxleen oo muuqda waxaa weeye inuu leeyahay damac libaax iyo qalbi dawaco. In Itoobiya dalka uqabato iyagoo iska fadhiya. In Soomaalida itoobiya genocide ku sameyso, markaasna markey carada aslaaxiso furaha ku wareejiso C/Laahi yuusuf iskana tagto.
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ladies and gents
salaad ali jelle and arawello are the same individual.
individual language prints dont change whether they are
talking or writing.
what arrawello writes and jelle says have the same prints.
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Araweelo,
It seems from your comments you are bitter Darood individual who still handicapped by the feast Darood used to enjoy alone. You can't pass 1960's mentality eh! While many Somalis like me (who have thought I have absolute rights in Somali politics!!) grew out from tribal thinking few still want strangely to puddle with old ugly days. As Insider of Somali events, it’s no brainer for absurd comments to stand in this day and age.
ICU is culmination of Dacwa effort expanding from 1960 to contemporary Somalia struggle Their spectrum covers on all Somali landscape, tribe, economic ladder, social strata etc. That is why they out lived all Somali tribal/political entities. They have vibrant, man power, capital (caqidah and vision); time, and courage to purse their dream. They may tumble, held back but at the end of this long journey they are power to be reckoning insha Allah. That is why their enemy understand their power base. Anyone who belittles or insults them shows their immature miscalculation.
Meanwhile,Geed (Amhara Camel) seduction won’t work with anyone. Even if he got this former financier and come with him in a big entourage, ICU is bigger than one person or persons. Its deen, a political Islam that settle no less than total government of Somalia. Anything else, waa bar ku mataaal.
Let we remember the wisdom that streams from the mouth of Sayid when he said proudly:
Anaa diiday maantuu lahaa, deeqan iga hooye
diinkayga anigaan ku gadan dabaqi naareede
anaa labada daarood tan hore derjo moodayne
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Marka hore dabkuu idnka dhigi, dumar sidiisiiye
Marka xigana daabaqadda yuu, idin dareensiine
Marka xiga dalkuu idinku oron, duunyo dhaafsade e
Marka xiga dushuu idinka rari, sida dameeraaye
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Wanted: does anyone know whereabouts of Salad Ali jeelle?
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meles's is to try to divide somalia along clan lines. the somali people are beginning to realise meles's objectives. the more the somali people become aware that the warlords have been cause of the somali plight the closer the people get to lasting peace. free your mind people of one brotherhood and the blue flag and the white star. always be on the side of justice.
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The mastermind of the fiasco in Asmara cowardly remains in the shadows-A.Qasim
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Bro, You don't mention Allah's name when it suits you. Allah's thoughts should be with you 24/7, your actions should reflect what Allah permited you. No one is allowed to use the name of Allah for un islamic actions. Like what the UIC did, Ilaahey waa sariicu xisaab.
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Haji Omar and other members of the Islamic Courts were working for Somali people unlike the warlords who are corrupted and want to enrich themselves. Omar Adani made tremendous sactifices to create stable Somalia. When Gedi and Dhere went to his house in nairobi he made it clear that Somalia belongs to Somali people and the enmey occupation forces must withdraw before any talks can began. It is no surprise that warlords and their apologists only think in terms of corruption and nepotism. Nation building and utiting Somali people is not in their vocbulary. Somali people are determined to free their country and the occupation will be defeated and the warlord puppets will follow suit Allah willing. The first signs of their defeat is visible, Gedi begging Haji Adani, Abdulahi going to Addis, their militia abondoning many places in Mogadishu after attacks. The days of the warlords and their masters are numbered.
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hanixin1 read my previuos posting, Cumar Cadaani was the Financier and was the culprit how this whole UIC horse-s h i t started, even though later was hijacked by one group. So, he can have some influence if he still feeds them, maybe Gedi should promise him that he would get back Ceel Macaan port for purpose of corrupting him( not really)or give him amnesty to come back to Mogadishu without reprisal and live amongs his people (enough with the exile). They confirmed that he sent a letter requesting to meet Geedi. Anti-traitor you are right, they are same sub-clan, but remember Cadaani's turf wa"r with Bahsir Rage it was how the UIC dance started, till another sub-clan sequestered and declared that they are the sole patent owners of it, instead of making it inclusive, isn't it funny!.
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As the spokesman of Gedi said , "its is family negotation". Both men belong to the same sub-sub-sub clan and they are free to talk about family matters. However, the fact that Gedi is begging Haji Cadaani shows that the warlords are losing the war with the resistance and they are trying to save the warlord government. The tough talk that they defeated the resistance is proven to be wishful thinking. Tonight they abondoned their positions because they could not bear the daily fighting. Haji Omar is respected man and will never allow the Ethiopian occupation to continue in Somalia.
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Waxaa la yiri Cadaani ayaa warqad u soo diray Geedi si ay u wada kulmaan una hadlaan si khaas ah, radio news.
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Mabdu*lle, Isla*animo baad sheeganaysaa waxa afkaaga ka deganaayana waad aragtaa. Adiga iyo kuwa aad u gubanaysid ee la magac baxay U I C loosers, waxaad tihiin dameer iyo labadiisa dhegood. Waayo diin, aqlaaq iyo dhaqanba ba ma lihidin, sidii dawacadii socodkeeda ka tagtay oo tu kalana gaari weysay baad noqoteen.
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Shanta the sanity dictate honesty and integrity. ICU are honest people. They may lack experience but I assure u they don't lack courage, Islamnimo and gaalnimo diid.
For Amhara camel attempt to seduce Somali mujahid is the biggest joke in Somali satire. I doubt Geed know anything from tribal talk to diplomatic singing.
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Go Geedi and bring those lost souls back to their country for they have fallen under the spell of the devil
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I just wonder if Cumar Cadaani had a change of heart, after seeing so many dead kids and seeing all his invested monies down in the drain. Maybe he is regretting all that, if he is looking for a truce with PM Geedi.
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Muqdisho(AllPuntland)- Madaxweynaha Jamhuuriyada Soomaaliya Md.C/laahi Yuusuf Axmed ayaa lafilayaa in uu todobaadka soo socda gaaro magaalada Addis Ababa markii sida lasheegay Martiqaad rasmi ah ka helay Madaxda dalkaasi.Does anybody know how many times he went there this year?
Madaxweynaha dowlada Soomaaliya ayaa Magaalada Addis Ababa kaga qeybgalaya Xus loo sameyn doono 1000 Sannad guuradii ka soo wareegtay Taariikh-da dalka Itoobiya ,war lugu sheegay. His nation is burning & he is celebrating Ethiopia's history, no wonder, nobody wants him.
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Muqdisho: Xaaji Cali Afrax: “Wiilkeena dhintay sanad ka hor ayuu na diiday oo naga tegay, wuxuuna raacay kooxaha weerarada qaada”
7. September 2007 APL Muqdisho(AllPuntland)
Xaaji Cali Afrax oo Abkoow u ahaa wiil xalay ku dhintay weerar bambaano oo lagu qaaday xarunta degmada Shibis ee magaalada Muqdisho kaasoo ay toogteen ciidamada Booliska ee degmadaasi iyagoo mid kalena dhaawac halis ah gaarsiiyay ayaa sheegay inuusan ka naxeynin geerida wiilkiisa.
“Sanad iyo labo bilood ka hor ayaa noogu danbeysay oo uu war naga diiday, iskool ayuu dhigan jiray oo bishii laga bixin jiray 25 Dollar waana diidyay, Aabihiis ayaan u wacay waa keenyay waan la hadalnay, wuxuuna na yiri idinma rabo Alle iyo Rasuulaa ila og maaro waan u weynay, waana naga tegyay” ayuu yiri Xaaji Cali Afrax oo ka mid ah dadka sida weyn looga yaqaan caasimada Muqdisho.
Xaaji Cali ayaa intaa ku daray in wiilkaasi uu ku adkeystay in ay Soomaalidu ka badan yihiin lana noolaan doono si kasto oo ay sameeyeena uu ka diiday isagoo kolkaa ku biiray kooxaha weerarada ku qaada goobaha ay degan yihiin mas’uuliyiinta dowladda iyo kuwa Ethiopia.
Dhacdadan xalay ka dhacday degmada Shibis ee lagu dilay wiilkaasi laguna dhaawacay sida uu sheegay Taliyaha Booliska Shibis Gaashaanle Nuur Cali Xasan Mu’adinkii Masjidka Rowda ee degmadaasi kaasoo eheladiisa ay ku doodeen in lagu dhaawacay masjidka gudahiisa halka uu taliyuhu sheegay in ciidamadu ay soo raaceen dhiigii ka daadanayey mu’adinka oo uu galay masjidka, halka uu Xaaji Cali Afrax ka qiray in wiilkoodu ku lug lahaa weerarkaas.
Cali Muxiyaddiin Cali
Another sad story of brainwashed kid.
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Arraweelo10
waxaad tahay danbile dalka iyo dalkaba dhacay , ma isk bixisay lacagtii aa ka lunsatay agoontii walaalkaa ka dhintay
in lagaa sugayo bari ma ogtahay
sidoo kale cali jaamac lacatii uu kugu soo dhiibay khajo bari ma bixisay sii nin fiican ayaa ra,yi meel ku soo qoraysaa
bahal dhintay ayaad tahay loose looser
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Arraweelo10:
waxaad u egtahy in aad cabsantahay sabata oh ingiisk jajabon oo aad soo qortay haddi
looser jiro waa adig waay hooyo waxaad u sheegtay in aad jamac ka baxday
waxa la soo ogaaday in aad baar qamri ka shaqay so
aabahaa wuxuu ahaa nin wadaad ah oo laga yaqaan gobalada bari
adiguna waxaa u hadlaysaa sidii ciilkii 50 sano ayaad jirtaa, qabiil ayaa qalbiga kaa madoobeeyay
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Cumar Cadaani was the Financier and was the culprit how this whole UIC horse-s h i t started, even though later was hijacked by one group. So, he can have some influence if he still feeds them, maybe Gedi should promise him that he would get back Ceel Macaan port for purpose of corrupting him( not really)or give him amnesty to come back to Mogadishu without reprisal and live amongs his people (enough with the exile).
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Back in January, Salad Ali Jeele said "Woxoogaaygi gafuurka duubnaay waa carareene, yaa wada hadal lala galaa?"After seven months of failure after failure ranging from 90 day Marshal law to indiscriminate shelling of civilians, TFG is beggining to come down from their high horse & face reality. The International community who are Bank-rolling this doomed effort of forcing the Somali people to accept Ethiopian created war lord Government are putting a lot of pressure on Zenawe & TFG to change course & work with the opposition. TFG is not doing this out of the goodness of their heart or their belief of give & take diplomacy, they are getting serious & timely Ultimatum from their top financiers. We know what the opposition demands are, the unconditional withdrawal of Ethiopian troops & genuine power sharing, let us see, how much of it TFG is willing to accept. One problem facing TFG in any bilateral negotiation is their deep rooted belief that if Ethiopia leaves, they will not last two days, because nobody wants them & that will be an obstacle to genuine peace..
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Ciidamada dowladda oo isaga baxay qeybo ka mid ah deg. Heliwaa
http://www.shabelle.net/2007/september/n13103.htm.
Yaa is gaaray
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shanta
Unwittingly you finally accept that Gedi is corrupted and not the UIC otherwise how else will he be able to corrupt if he is not corrupted to begin with? And to corrupt them they must be corrupt free to begin with otherwise it won’t be logical to corrupt the already corrupted.
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The west accepts Somali TFG, which only consist of 'Geedi, Yusuf, Dheere'... which does not have any public support, its parliament is locked in Baidoa by Ethiopian troops. Where is the so-called government. Non of its ministary has been seen fully working.
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Corrupt their leaders one at the time so the rest will creep in back. Geedi is learning Politics as he goes!
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Kuwaan jilicsanaa. shirkii oo maaalin socday beey calaacal iyo baryo bilaabeen. yaa is gaaray.MR fanax shikha buu jilbaha soo qabsanaayaa. itis too late.
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